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Old 12-22-2008, 09:54 PM
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Pepper's Pride??? Are you serious?? She's a high priced claiming horse if she was on any other circuit!!
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:04 PM
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horse of the YEAR - not the last race of the year. Zenyatta is questionable because she faced questionable competition all in California.

Who was Curlin ducking when he went to Dubai or Saratoga

wow.. that's pretty lean

I vote for none of the above and I really don't care who gets it
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:12 PM
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Curlin is HOTY... please no whinning by Zenyatta crowd. Fillies and mares participate in restricted races. If Zenyatta had taken on boys in Breeders' Cup and prevailed, she would have earned HOTY.

Curlin won open Grade I races at multple venues on two continents. Zenyatta left California for her lone non-synthetic race and did not even cross Mississippi River! One could argue that she is California HOTY, or synthetic HOTY.
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:47 AM
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One could argue that she is California HOTY, or synthetic HOTY.
too funny

and let me guess, your in the Easy Goer was better then Sunday Silence crowd as well.
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:55 AM
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Does anyone think who Curlin's trainer is might swing a few votes, the guy has been popped for more drug offenses then Laurence Taylor. How much of the good stuff did Curlin get this year? To my knowledge Zenyatta's trainer has not a whiff of a problem like that with the jurisdictions.
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Old 12-23-2008, 03:52 AM
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Does anyone think who Curlin's trainer is might swing a few votes, the guy has been popped for more drug offenses then Laurence Taylor. How much of the good stuff did Curlin get this year? To my knowledge Zenyatta's trainer has not a whiff of a problem like that with the jurisdictions.
It doesn't seem like he got much...considering he lost a couple of times and the times he won were against suspect horses.
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Old 12-23-2008, 08:34 AM
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Default "Z" horses! .......Don't get excited Zayat Stables.

Horse of the Year is an award for North American horses for North American efforts. Curlin people, you should know better, don't mention the Dubai World Cup. If you want to throw that race in the mix then you will lose your argument for sure. The stage widens and we have to consider Zarkava.

Her victory in the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe (Fr-I) was over a better field than Curlin faced in his Dubai race. She, like Zenyatta, was undefeated but she, unlike Zenyatta, did beat the boys.

Horse of the Year should go to a “Z” horse. Zarkava or Zenyatta
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Old 12-23-2008, 09:06 AM
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i think it should go to a us based horse.the filly in europe is fantastic but we did not see her here on us soil.. so for me its curlin..hate the owner and trainer but the horse doesent know them ..he just runs hard... big brown is second choice if i voted
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Old 12-23-2008, 09:34 AM
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Horse of the Year is an award for North American horses for North American efforts. Curlin people, you should know better, don't mention the Dubai World Cup. If you want to throw that race in the mix then you will lose your argument for sure. The stage widens and we have to consider Zarkava.

Her victory in the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe (Fr-I) was over a better field than Curlin faced in his Dubai race. She, like Zenyatta, was undefeated but she, unlike Zenyatta, did beat the boys.

Horse of the Year should go to a “Z” horse. Zarkava or Zenyatta
I agree whole heartedly and because of Zenyatta's Arc she wins Curlin lost his chance at Santa Anita. IMO
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:15 PM
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Horse of the Year is an award for North American horses for North American efforts. Curlin people, you should know better, don't mention the Dubai World Cup. If you want to throw that race in the mix then you will lose your argument for sure. The stage widens and we have to consider Zarkava.
Her victory in the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe (Fr-I) was over a better field than Curlin faced in his Dubai race. She, like Zenyatta, was undefeated but she, unlike Zenyatta, did beat the boys.

Horse of the Year should go to a “Z” horse. Zarkava or Zenyatta
This statement is absolutely, 100% incorrect. You can throw the Dubai World Cup into the mix because it's a race on the record of a horse that is eligible for the title. Zarkava never raced in North America so therefore she is ineligible and thus, her results aren't even to be considered.
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Old 12-23-2008, 05:16 PM
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Horse of the Year is an award for North American horses for North American efforts. Curlin people, you should know better, don't mention the Dubai World Cup. If you want to throw that race in the mix then you will lose your argument for sure. The stage widens and we have to consider Zarkava.

Her victory in the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe (Fr-I) was over a better field than Curlin faced in his Dubai race. She, like Zenyatta, was undefeated but she, unlike Zenyatta, did beat the boys.

Horse of the Year should go to a “Z” horse. Zarkava or Zenyatta
you have to have one start in north america to be considered for an eclipse, zarkava obviously doesn't qualify. curlin does, and i can see taking his dwc into consideration, since high chaparral (for example) only had ONE start in NA when he won, so obviously foreign races are considered.
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