Man, hard work for little money

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Scuds--you are one of the few people on this board who I repsect--you touched on something and I would love to talk it more. When capping a race I hear so many people saying "i am going to try and beat the fav." To me this is silly. Why try to beat someone who you dont think is beatable. I dont care what the odds are in a race. If I like a horse, I am going to bet that horse. Now, I do try to find a vulnerable fav but that is different than just winging a $20 win bet on Dr Pleasure in the Travers. I think that most bettors are silly or they lose sight of the goal--TO WIN MONEY.

That's smart, sound advice. I think bettors get caught up in the desire to win a lot of money on a small bet and would rather throw money out the window than win a little money on a larger bet on a favorite that is not vulnerable. Then just don't bet the race, I figure.

I thought it was almost set in stone that Bernardini and BGC would run 1-2 in the Travers, which they did. And the exacta paid 2-1, I think, but that's like free money. Again, in the stock market a 100% return on an investment is outstanding. (Not that I remembered to bet on it and I was a wee bit irritated with myself for not trotting down to the OTB on Saturday. Ah well. That's what I get for going off caffeine this week-- swampy brain)

But gambling is partly about the thrill and I guess for some people the thrill is worth more than winning on short odds. I guess?

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

That's smart, sound advice. I think bettors get caught up in the desire to win a lot of money on a small bet and would rather throw money out the window than win a little money on a larger bet on a favorite that is not vulnerable. Then just don't bet the race, I figure.

I thought it was almost set in stone that Bernardini and BGC would run 1-2 in the Travers, which they did. And the exacta paid 2-1, I think, but that's like free money. Again, in the stock market a 100% return on an investment is outstanding. (Not that I remembered to bet on it and I was a wee bit irritated with myself for not trotting down to the OTB on Saturday. Ah well. That's what I get for going off caffeine this week-- swampy brain)

But gambling is partly about the thrill and I guess for some people the thrill is worth more than winning on short odds. I guess?

You are so right about gambling being a thrill. People like to boost about having the 50-1 shot. Which I guess they should. I cant believe the $2 tri in the Travers paid $35.20. If you think that Bernardini and BC runs 1-2 then do a tri with all in the bottom. A $2 tri would have cost $8. So you quadruple your money. That was the play of the weekend in my mind.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

You are so right about gambling being a thrill. People like to boost about having the 50-1 shot. Which I guess they should. I cant believe the $2 tri in the Travers paid $35.20. If you think that Bernardini and BC runs 1-2 then do a tri with all in the bottom. A $2 tri would have cost $8. So you quadruple your money. That was the play of the weekend in my mind.

The play of the weekend to me was the pick 4 at toga Saturday. $29 for a $1 with a second choice and 3 dead chalks. Unbelievable.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

The play of the weekend to me was the pick 4 at toga Saturday. $29 for a $1 with a second choice and 3 dead chalks. Unbelievable.

Wow, it paid that much. A $2 pick 4 $58?? Heck even if you spend $24 on a ticket you double your money. Yeah, that is unreal.

[Gander]

Why dont we focus on races that have not run yet rather than say what we thought were the best plays of the past weekend's races. Very easy to speculate on value after we know the results, especially pick 4's that pay $58and triples that pay $35.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Gander

Why dont we focus on races that have not run yet rather than say what we thought were the best plays of the past weekend's races. Very easy to speculate on value after we know the results, especially pick 4's that pay $58and triples that pay $35.

Feel free to start a thread on it...

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Feel free to start a thread on it...

Good point.

Originally Posted by Gander

Why dont we focus on races that have not run yet rather than say what we thought were the best plays of the past weekend's races. Very easy to speculate on value after we know the results, especially pick 4's that pay $58and triples that pay $35.

To me there is only one race left betting at Saratoga and that is the Hopeful. After that I will look forward to the Clement L Hirsch on Sept 30th and then to Oct 7th. I am sort of interested in Kentucky Cup day at Turfway. But it is always good to go back and look at betting strategy and discuss the results. Maybe someone will mention something that I dont know or have forgotten.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

You are so right about gambling being a thrill. People like to boost about having the 50-1 shot. Which I guess they should. I cant believe the $2 tri in the Travers paid $35.20. If you think that Bernardini and BC runs 1-2 then do a tri with all in the bottom. A $2 tri would have cost $8. So you quadruple your money. That was the play of the weekend in my mind.

And that's exactly what I did in the G1 contest whortman was running! I was so pleased with myself. (still being a novice handicapper, I'm trying to stick to theoretical bets as much as possible so the contest was the ideal place-- I could practice stupid bets and smart ones without penalty...)

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

And that's exactly what I did in the G1 contest whortman was running! I was so pleased with myself. (still being a novice handicapper, I'm trying to stick to theoretical bets as much as possible so the contest was the ideal place-- I could practice stupid bets and smart ones without penalty...)

Well congrats in the contest. I sort of miss being a novice handicapper. I would get so excited to learn something and then put it to work and then see the results. In my opinion, you have to make bets that make sense. Betting anyone other than BC and Bernardini to win didnt make sense.

[2MinsToPost]

that is where i went wrong on saturday. went too deep, too wide on my pick 4 and 3 at toga and lost money. should have known better, even though i hit the 4 and 3 i lost.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Well congrats in the contest. I sort of miss being a novice handicapper. I would get so excited to learn something and then put it to work and then see the results. In my opinion, you have to make bets that make sense. Betting anyone other than BC and Bernardini to win didnt make sense.

Of course, I sucked big weinies every other week, with the exception of Gorella/Film Maker... ergo the "novice." You're right about the thrill of learning something new and then putting it all together-- I love that, too.

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Of course, I sucked big weinies every other week, with the exception of Gorella/Film Maker... ergo the "novice." You're right about the thrill of learning something new and then putting it all together-- I love that, too.

Again, there are certain phrases a woman should never say. "sucking big weenies every other week" is one of those. Kev will be visiting every other week. And plus, it is offensive to those of us who only have small weenies.

But there is nothing like the thrill of winning when you are a novice. I will never forget my first big score. I acutally made a wrong dollar amount bet and I was too embarrassed to correct myself. It was a long time ago at Turfway. Patty Cooksey was on the 1 horse and she was 14-1. I really liked the horse and I liked the 4 horse as well to win. The 4 was the fav at 2-1. I put those two over each other and 2 other horses who were 3-1 (2 horse) and 6-1 (the 8 horse). So my ticket was this
1-4
with
1-2-4-8

I meant to do a $20 exacta wheel for a cost of $120. But I said $40 wheel. The cost was $240.00. The exacta was 1-8. The exacta paid $150.00. I was like a kid in a candy shop when I saw $3000 come back at the teller.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Again, there are certain phrases a woman should never say. "sucking big weenies every other week" is one of those. Kev will be visiting every other week. And plus, it is offensive to those of us who only have small weenies.

But there is nothing like the thrill of winning when you are a novice. I will never forget my first big score. I acutally made a wrong dollar amount bet and I was too embarrassed to correct myself. It was a long time ago at Turfway. Patty Cooksey was on the 1 horse and she was 14-1. I really liked the horse and I liked the 4 horse as well to win. The 4 was the fav at 2-1. I put those two over each other and 2 other horses who were 3-1 (2 horse) and 6-1 (the 8 horse). So my ticket was this
1-4
with
1-2-4-8

I meant to do a $20 exacta wheel for a cost of $120. But I said $40 wheel. The cost was $240.00. The exacta was 1-8. The exacta paid $150.00. I was like a kid in a candy shop when I saw $3000 come back at the teller.

some one call my name????

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Of course, I sucked big weinies every other week, with the exception of Gorella/Film Maker... ergo the "novice." You're right about the thrill of learning something new and then putting it all together-- I love that, too.

You don't like sucking big weinies?

[GenuineRisk]

Not when those particular weinies are the very bad bets I make with $120 of hypothetical money, I don't... as for other weinies... I'll just leave that one to everyone's filthy imaginations. Hee hee hee. See "smelly little giblets" on the "misunderestimated" thread on the OT board.

In all seriousness, that was a great story, Euro!