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Old 12-10-2008, 08:08 PM
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Good comparison talent wise...but Fernandez tore up his arm pitching in the 1997 NLCS. So if Sabathia suffers a serious arm injury, yes the comparison works...otherwise...not really.
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:36 AM
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Good comparison talent wise...but Fernandez tore up his arm pitching in the 1997 NLCS. So if Sabathia suffers a serious arm injury, yes the comparison works...otherwise...not really.
Right, but that is the big risk you are taking with a 7 year deal.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:07 PM
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Right, but that is the big risk you are taking with a 7 year deal.
They do have the buyout after three years which could work out good for them if he stinks or gets hurt. Of course if he can leave too.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:14 PM
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Sabathia asked for a buyout to be put into a 7 year 160 mil contract?
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:25 PM
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Sabathia asked for a buyout to be put into a 7 year 160 mil contract?
Supposedly the yankees wanted it. Hoffman to Dodgers is the latest rumor
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:31 PM
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On a positive note (the pinstripes are going to come out now) you have a big three now of Sabathia, Wang and joba. Hughes should be back and is probably going to get pretty good if he can stay healthy (operative IF). Now they are throwing money at Burnett. Thats a very solid pitching staff. The question is, why would you throw five years and 80 million on a guy thats 31, injury prone and most likely your number 5 pitcher?

Either way, this staff could easily be amongst the best. If everything goes perfectly, they will be THE best.

Now im hearing Melky for Mike Cameron? I guess they will take whatever they can get for melky now even if its another centerfielder that should no longer be playing center field.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:35 PM
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On a positive note (the pinstripes are going to come out now) you have a big three now of Sabathia, Wang and joba. Hughes should be back and is probably going to get pretty good if he can stay healthy (operative IF). Now they are throwing money at Burnett. Thats a very solid pitching staff. The question is, why would you throw five years and 80 million on a guy thats 31, injury prone and most likely your number 5 pitcher?

Either way, this staff could easily be amongst the best. If everything goes perfectly, they will be THE best.

Now im hearing Melky for Mike Cameron? I guess they will take whatever they can get for melky now even if its another centerfielder that should no longer be playing center field.
Joba belongs in the bullpen and is a huge question mark in the rotation. He's unhittable up to 45 pitches and is useless from there on out. Talk is they want Burnett (horrible move at 5 years) AND Lowe, Sheets, or Pettite. So at that point they could and should move Joba to the bullpen and let Hughes start as the #5 and see how he does behind an incredibly strong top four.
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Old 12-11-2008, 03:10 PM
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On a positive note (the pinstripes are going to come out now) you have a big three now of Sabathia, Wang and joba. Hughes should be back and is probably going to get pretty good if he can stay healthy (operative IF). Now they are throwing money at Burnett. Thats a very solid pitching staff. The question is, why would you throw five years and 80 million on a guy thats 31, injury prone and most likely your number 5 pitcher?

Either way, this staff could easily be amongst the best. If everything goes perfectly, they will be THE best.

Now im hearing Melky for Mike Cameron? I guess they will take whatever they can get for melky now even if its another centerfielder that should no longer be playing center field.
Joba is hardly a given and Hughes has yet to pitch 1/2 of a season. Burnett allows Joba to stay in the set up role while they figure out what to do with him. Burnett would be the 2nd best starter until proven otherwise or injured again. They still have question marks. CC is a given and Wang should be ok as is Burnett. But you are counting on hughes, kennedy and/or Joba giving you 500 innings and that is far from a given. Joba in the rotation makes the bullpen still a shaky option. The best situation is CC, Burnett, Wang, Hughes, and Kennedy as starters and Joba and Mariano closing the games out.

aging, declining outfielders are now a Yankee specialty.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:31 PM
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They do have the buyout after three years which could work out good for them if he stinks or gets hurt. Of course if he can leave too.
Player only option after three years. His arm falls off tomorrow and you can bet your ass he won't be exercising that option and the Yankees are on the line for all seven years. They added that to ease his concerns about being unhappy in NY.
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Old 12-14-2008, 11:35 AM
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Player only option after three years. His arm falls off tomorrow and you can bet your ass he won't be exercising that option and the Yankees are on the line for all seven years. They added that to ease his concerns about being unhappy in NY.
Actually coming from those meetings. CC wanted the option so that he could still have a chance to play on the West Coast. He waited for the LA team to present an offer. The Yanks weren't going to wait. They were going to pull and both LA teams were waiting for it to happen, so they could offer CC roughly 3-5 years instead for around 20-22 mil.
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