Man, hard work for little money

Originally Posted by sumitas

good strategy when it works. and it worked. congrats.

Thanks.....Yeah---not likely when all the odds on favorites win with such ease. Well Ashkal Way wasnt so easy.....I was out of town all weekend and placed the bets with some buddies who were going to the track. I had to call each time to remind them to make the bet for the next race.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

7/2 shot.......for 4 races(2 of which were turf=trouble can easily be found.)The most important thing is not trying to beat them(if you think they are coming in.)I think it is less important to make the 4 race play(because something will usually go wrong with the trip in one of those races.)

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

7/2 shot.......for 4 races(2 of which were turf=trouble can easily be found.)The most important thing is not trying to beat them(if you think they are coming in.)I think it is less important to make the 4 race play(because something will usually go wrong with the trip in one of those races.)

Scuds--you are one of the few people on this board who I repsect--you touched on something and I would love to talk it more. When capping a race I hear so many people saying "i am going to try and beat the fav." To me this is silly. Why try to beat someone who you dont think is beatable. I dont care what the odds are in a race. If I like a horse, I am going to bet that horse. Now, I do try to find a vulnerable fav but that is different than just winging a $20 win bet on Dr Pleasure in the Travers. I think that most bettors are silly or they lose sight of the goal--TO WIN MONEY.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Scuds--you are one of the few people on this board who I repsect--you touched on something and I would love to talk it more. When capping a race I hear so many people saying "i am going to try and beat the fav." To me this is silly. Why try to beat someone who you dont think is beatable. I dont care what the odds are in a race. If I like a horse, I am going to bet that horse. Now, I do try to find a vulnerable fav but that is different than just winging a $20 win bet on Dr Pleasure in the Travers. I think that most bettors are silly or they lose sight of the goal--TO WIN MONEY.

That's smart, sound advice. I think bettors get caught up in the desire to win a lot of money on a small bet and would rather throw money out the window than win a little money on a larger bet on a favorite that is not vulnerable. Then just don't bet the race, I figure.

I thought it was almost set in stone that Bernardini and BGC would run 1-2 in the Travers, which they did. And the exacta paid 2-1, I think, but that's like free money. Again, in the stock market a 100% return on an investment is outstanding. (Not that I remembered to bet on it and I was a wee bit irritated with myself for not trotting down to the OTB on Saturday. Ah well. That's what I get for going off caffeine this week-- swampy brain)

But gambling is partly about the thrill and I guess for some people the thrill is worth more than winning on short odds. I guess?

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

That's smart, sound advice. I think bettors get caught up in the desire to win a lot of money on a small bet and would rather throw money out the window than win a little money on a larger bet on a favorite that is not vulnerable. Then just don't bet the race, I figure.

I thought it was almost set in stone that Bernardini and BGC would run 1-2 in the Travers, which they did. And the exacta paid 2-1, I think, but that's like free money. Again, in the stock market a 100% return on an investment is outstanding. (Not that I remembered to bet on it and I was a wee bit irritated with myself for not trotting down to the OTB on Saturday. Ah well. That's what I get for going off caffeine this week-- swampy brain)

But gambling is partly about the thrill and I guess for some people the thrill is worth more than winning on short odds. I guess?

You are so right about gambling being a thrill. People like to boost about having the 50-1 shot. Which I guess they should. I cant believe the $2 tri in the Travers paid $35.20. If you think that Bernardini and BC runs 1-2 then do a tri with all in the bottom. A $2 tri would have cost $8. So you quadruple your money. That was the play of the weekend in my mind.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

You are so right about gambling being a thrill. People like to boost about having the 50-1 shot. Which I guess they should. I cant believe the $2 tri in the Travers paid $35.20. If you think that Bernardini and BC runs 1-2 then do a tri with all in the bottom. A $2 tri would have cost $8. So you quadruple your money. That was the play of the weekend in my mind.

The play of the weekend to me was the pick 4 at toga Saturday. $29 for a $1 with a second choice and 3 dead chalks. Unbelievable.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

The play of the weekend to me was the pick 4 at toga Saturday. $29 for a $1 with a second choice and 3 dead chalks. Unbelievable.

Wow, it paid that much. A $2 pick 4 $58?? Heck even if you spend $24 on a ticket you double your money. Yeah, that is unreal.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

You are so right about gambling being a thrill. People like to boost about having the 50-1 shot. Which I guess they should. I cant believe the $2 tri in the Travers paid $35.20. If you think that Bernardini and BC runs 1-2 then do a tri with all in the bottom. A $2 tri would have cost $8. So you quadruple your money. That was the play of the weekend in my mind.

And that's exactly what I did in the G1 contest whortman was running! I was so pleased with myself. (still being a novice handicapper, I'm trying to stick to theoretical bets as much as possible so the contest was the ideal place-- I could practice stupid bets and smart ones without penalty...)

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

And that's exactly what I did in the G1 contest whortman was running! I was so pleased with myself. (still being a novice handicapper, I'm trying to stick to theoretical bets as much as possible so the contest was the ideal place-- I could practice stupid bets and smart ones without penalty...)

Well congrats in the contest. I sort of miss being a novice handicapper. I would get so excited to learn something and then put it to work and then see the results. In my opinion, you have to make bets that make sense. Betting anyone other than BC and Bernardini to win didnt make sense.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Scuds--you are one of the few people on this board who I repsect--you touched on something and I would love to talk it more. When capping a race I hear so many people saying "i am going to try and beat the fav." To me this is silly. Why try to beat someone who you dont think is beatable. I dont care what the odds are in a race. If I like a horse, I am going to bet that horse. Now, I do try to find a vulnerable fav but that is different than just winging a $20 win bet on Dr Pleasure in the Travers. I think that most bettors are silly or they lose sight of the goal--TO WIN MONEY.

you can beat the fave...if you find the right favorite to beat! the favorite wins about 30-35% of the time...use that stat. i did the other day in the contest on here, pick the winners of all the races on saturday..
i originally wasn't going to play, didn't feel like shelling out the $, low as it is, and poring over the pp's for that.

i ended up going to equibase and looking over the entries. had six winners and three seconds just going off that! go figure....

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

you can beat the fave...if you find the right favorite to beat! the favorite wins about 30-35% of the time...use that stat. i did the other day in the contest on here, pick the winners of all the races on saturday..
i originally wasn't going to play, didn't feel like shelling out the $, low as it is, and poring over the pp's for that.

i ended up going to equibase and looking over the entries. had six winners and three seconds just going off that! go figure....

And I think that's the key, right? Finding the vulnerable favorite, as euro said.

Wow; sensational Saturday for you, Danzig! Congrats.

[Danzig]

oh definitely...they aren't all vulnerable...that's when you try some exotics...