Lawyer Ron returns in St. Louis Derby

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Please explain to the good and honorable members of this forum ...

... how it's a distortion for me to publicly state my true belief about a general socioeconomic matter?

So you truly believe the Black population, on the whole, had the same socioeconomic status of the Caucasion population, on the whole, in the 1950's?

Nice touch with the please tell the board. Man you are so predictable. But you did make me post. I will give you that.

Lawyer Ron.

Originally Posted by pgardn

So you truly believe the Black population, on the whole, had the same socioeconomic status of the Caucasion population, on the whole, in the 1950's?

No ... my comment was ... that in the 1950's African-American families were nearly as stable as other American families.

That is not an opinion ... it is a fact born out by the extensive research of such outstanding economists and historians ... like Dr. Thomas Sowell, Dr. Walter Williams, and Dr. Shelby Steele.

But ... you don't have to take my word for it ... just read their works ... inspect their data ... and you too will learn that it's true.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

No ... my comment was ... that in the 1950's African-American families were nearly as stable as other American families.

That is not an opinion ... it is a fact born out by the extensive research of such outstanding economists and historians ... like Dr. Thomas Sowell, Dr. Walter Williams, and Dr. Shelby Steele.

But ... you don't have to take my word for it ... just read their works ... inspect their data ... and you too will learn that it's true.

Eww. I got him to answer. So blacks were as NOT as well off economically in the 50's? And if they were not, why not with that stable family structure? No history before that BB? Thats what you left out before... Along with a bunch of other things with other posts.

Lawyer Ron got people's attention with his Arkansas Derby win. Smarty Jones made that a race with more credibility. So it was assumed he would be right in the mix. I also hope he makes a solid comeback as I like the less glamorous background.

Originally Posted by pgardn

Eww. I got him to answer. So blacks were as NOT as well off economically in the 50's? And if they were not, why not with that stable family structure? No history before that BB? Thats what you left out before... Along with a bunch of other things with other posts.

You know ... and I know ... and now everyone else knows ... that what I said then ... and what I say now ... is that African-American families were nearly as stable as all other American families in the 1950's.

You can wiggle and squirm and distort and throw sand in the air ... and you do ... but nothing you say or do can change that fact ... or permit you to slip away from it.

You certainly have not documented that I said anything other than that ... and of course you know that you can't ... hence all your sand throwing and mud slinging.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

You know ... and I know ... and now everyone else knows ... that what I said then ... and what I say now ... is that African-American families were nearly as stable as all other American families in the 1950's.

You can wiggle and squirm and distort and throw sand in the air ... and you do ... but nothing you say or do can change that fact ... or permit you to slip away from it.

You certainly have not documented that I said anything other than that ... and of course you know that you can't ... hence all your sand throwing and mud slinging.

We will try ONE more time and show the board:
Were blacks as well off socioeconomically in the 1950's as Whites given that they had such a stable family structure. And if NOT, why not? This is what you never answered before. And still avoid.

It was interesting reading how Lawyer Ron got his name. I personally think Perfect Drift is a wonderful name for a horse and an activity I love. Got to be one of my favorite horse names.

[sumitas]

it really is about class, not race. we immigrated to America in the 50s without a cent to our name and we did ok for ourselves. your economic position in the 50s hasn't a thing to do with your poor status today. it's what you've done in between that matters.

Originally Posted by pgardn

We will try ONE more time and show the board:
Were blacks as well off socioeconomically in the 1950's as Whites given that they had such a stable family structure. And if NOT, why not? This is what you never answered before. And still avoid.

It matters not one whit what I believe about how "well off socioeconomically" anyone was 50 years ago ... those are established facts which anyone who has the desire and intelligence to look them up can learn for themselves.

Nor does it matter a whit why I believe those facts came to be what they were.

Why is it so important to you what I believe about established statistical data from 50 years ago? I don't get it ... and I doubt that anyone else does ... or cares ... either.

What could possibly explain your obsession with something so meaningless?

[sumitas]

blacks have every opportunity to be successfull. if they are not it's nobody's fault but their own. Just ask Bill Cosby, Juan Williams and many others. who's fault is it their illegitimate birth rate is 99%.

It is a huge event that Lawyer Ron has made this comeback. I hope he is even better than he was prior to the injury. He is a horse we can cheer for.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Lawyer Ron got people's attention with his Arkansas Derby win. Smarty Jones made that a race with more credibility. So it was assumed he would be right in the mix. I also hope he makes a solid comeback as I like the less glamorous background.

He got my attention way before the Arkansas Derby because he annihilated his competition in the Risen Star. That is when I officially got on board. He then went on a wonderful win streak. I thought that he would have been in the mix in the Derby because of the talent and determination that he displayed. Steppenwolfer was a solid third in the Derby, and LR beat him every time down in Arkansas. I really believe that LR didn't fire his best shot (or even close to it) because of the chip.