Joel Rosario

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

I think you had a win ticket on a horse that didn't win. Your rant is called SOUR GRAPES. My Beagle is the only one that has to listen when I have a loser, except when the rider is Alex Solis. Time to move on.

Thats funny.....I guess every time someone criticizes a jock that it's sour grapes...they had a huge win bet....etc.

I didnt have a DIME on the race. I just was watching the race and noticed what a bad decision it was by Rosario. I know this board is full of love and cheer and some people who are blind to the obvious, but believe it or not, these jocks do make stupid decisions.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Joel had to make a decision. We have all seen situations where that Mr. Chairman could have tired, and Winchester could have kept Obrigado stuck down on the rail. That could of happened to Valdivia too. Both horses had run, and got a clean chance to show it. Fact is the winner had a lot more to give at the top(and middle) of the stretch. Obrigado didn't have that burst, and it's not because he went a lil wider than the winner. It's because he is twenty some odd to 1. He's not as good. Joel makes it look close at the end because he is good, but the time to run was earlier than that, and he didn't have the stuff to give that the winner did. I will take that ride on Obrigado any day, because I have lost a lot more races doing what Valdivia did(hope for perfect trip, and get out.) Weren't there guys that tried that last weekend, and Dominguez came wide to blow by them? How many races has Nakatani lost by being on the rail and expecting others to give him a way out? A lot. Looks smart when you get it, but I have lost a lot more races due to guys expecting that perfect way out that Valdivia got. Looks pretty when it goes well. Looks pretty crappy if that 6 had backed up and Smullen had locked somebody down on the rail. Look going into the 1st turn of this race. Smullen makes a bit of a dangerous move to cut Rosario off a lil bit. I don't think he wanted that to happen again. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WOULD OF TAKEN PLACE IF SMULLEN HAD MORE HORSE, AND CHAIRMAN TIRED.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Joel had to make a decision. We have all seen situations where that Mr. Chairman could have tired, and Winchester could have kept Obrigado stuck down on the rail. That could of happened to Valdivia too. Both horses had run, and got a clean chance to show it. Fact is the winner had a lot more to give at the top(and middle) of the stretch. Obrigado didn't have that burst, and it's not because he went a lil wider than the winner. It's because he is twenty some odd to 1. He's not as good. Joel makes it look close at the end because he is good, but the time to run was earlier than that, and he didn't have the stuff to give that the winner did. I will take that ride on Obrigado any day, because I have lost a lot more races doing what Valdivia did(hope for perfect trip, and get out.) Weren't there guys that tried that last weekend, and Dominguez came wide to blow by them? How many races has Nakatani lost by being on the rail and expecting others to give him a way out? A lot. Looks smart when you get it, but I have lost a lot more races due to guys expecting that perfect way out that Valdivia got. Looks pretty when it goes well. Looks pretty crappy if that 6 had backed up and Smullen had locked somebody down on the rail. Look going into the 1st turn of this race. Smullen makes a bit of a dangerous move to cut Rosario off a lil bit. I don't think he wanted that to happen again.

Perhaps the most moronic thing I have seen posted on the net. Congrats. I didn't know that as the horses went into the starting gate that they are told their odds. What happens if someone mistakenly told Champ Elysees that he was 30-1, would he not try as hard...perhaps not run well.

Perhaps you should take some time this afternoon and get fitted for a dunce cap.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Perhaps the most moronic thing I have seen posted on the net. Congrats. I didn't know that as the horses went into the starting gate that they are told their odds. What happens if someone mistakenly told Champ Elysees that he was 30-1, would he not try as hard...perhaps not run well.

Perhaps you should take some time this afternoon and get fitted for a dunce cap.

If you think Obrigado was as good as C.E. yesterday, then you need the dunce cap. Horse had a chance to run, and couldn't go with the better horse. Look, the horse is clear. He has every chance to go with the winner, but can't do it. He is not as good. They both had every chance to show what they had. Frankel horse has more run(real big surprise guys.) I wish you would save bad rides for when you've got run, and can't get out to show it. That is not a bad ride. That's the way this rider wins a lot of races. Like I said, you're gunna be complaining a lot about horses who come up just short against Frankel chalk. This guy is gunna tease like this. It's what he does.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

hes no eddie d....but hes a good jock..he blew that one imo

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Joel had to make a decision. We have all seen situations where that Mr. Chairman could have tired, and Winchester could have kept Obrigado stuck down on the rail. That could of happened to Valdivia too. Both horses had run, and got a clean chance to show it. Fact is the winner had a lot more to give at the top(and middle) of the stretch. Obrigado didn't have that burst, and it's not because he went a lil wider than the winner. It's because he is twenty some odd to 1. He's not as good. Joel makes it look close at the end because he is good, but the time to run was earlier than that, and he didn't have the stuff to give that the winner did. I will take that ride on Obrigado any day, because I have lost a lot more races doing what Valdivia did(hope for perfect trip, and get out.) Weren't there guys that tried that last weekend, and Dominguez came wide to blow by them? How many races has Nakatani lost by being on the rail and expecting others to give him a way out? A lot. Looks smart when you get it, but I have lost a lot more races due to guys expecting that perfect way out that Valdivia got. Looks pretty when it goes well. Looks pretty crappy if that 6 had backed up and Smullen had locked somebody down on the rail. Look going into the 1st turn of this race. Smullen makes a bit of a dangerous move to cut Rosario off a lil bit. I don't think he wanted that to happen again. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WOULD OF TAKEN PLACE IF SMULLEN HAD MORE HORSE, AND CHAIRMAN TIRED.

Exactly. Its kind of like when a QB throws an intereception and the automatic reaction is that its the QB's fault. Could The receiver have made a bad read? Could The pass have been perfect but the defense just made a great play? So many variables and people focus simply on the result.