Kip Deville to IEAH

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by mp3

don't own him. just noticed that someone had posted as to whom bought him. Was browsing the ieah website and saw they did. Called them to inquire if any was for sale. They said no. Nice guy by the name of mike sherack spoke to me. He told me that dutrow told them this horse could end up being the best horse he has ever trained. Remember this post..He was not selling me a line because he wasn't offering any of him for sale. He said he breezed in company with love of money today and toyed with him. They said he moves way up on the turf. I love finding horses nobody knows about. Anyone can talk about Showing up or stream cat, Kip flies under the radar and that is what I look for....Jeff

The best horse he ever trained? The guy had Saint Liam and has Silver Train. That horse is running with cheap allowance horses and won a race in TX on a terrible course. Good luck if you bet on him in that race although Dutrow will have him ready. Don't worry they didn't sell you any, if you wait about 8-10 months you can buy him in the 15K claimer at Aqueduct. Kidding.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Exceller

The best horse he ever trained? The guy had Saint Liam and has Silver Train. That horse is running with cheap allowance horses and won a race in TX on a terrible course. Good luck if you bet on him in that race although Dutrow will have him ready. Don't worry they didn't sell you any, if you wait about 8-10 months you can buy him in the 15K claimer at Aqueduct. Kidding.

A 25 claimer. LOL

[mp3]

why wish them misery?

Originally Posted by mp3

why wish them misery?

Because they are idiots, thats why mp3

YOU know guys. Its real easy to knock an owner and his or her horses.
Its a game in whihc they lose way more offten than they win.
YOu think I'm rude because I bust on people and their statements sometimes? Well lemme tell you whats really rude.
Really rude is a guy or gal or someone else coming to this board and sharing the fact that they have ownership in a horse and then knocking or bashing their horses, thats whats rude.
Obviously Exceller has a percentage with West Point, Boldruler has friends who are tight with the Jackson's etc. See, I wouldn't and most others wouldn't bash or knock these people or their horses knowing that they are here and posting.
You are out of line guys, way out of line.
IEAh is a group of successful people who have been playing in the horse game quite successfully. They like to buy horses who are alrady proven runners, and even though you often pay more money for these types, its certainly a highe percentage move than paying 500 grand here and there for unproven yearlings.
Now mp3 sounds like a guy who may have invested in this group, or wants to or knows them. I don't know him from a hole in the ground. I haven't heard anyone bashing West point or the Jacksons, what the heck gives you the audacity to insult IEAH?
If someone comes on this site, and has ownership in a stable, you can bet your ass I'm not going to insult them or their horses.
By the way Iavarone is as sharp as any owner out there and has a good crew, especially Sherack.

Originally Posted by oracle80

YOU know guys. Its real easy to knock an owner and his or her horses.
Its a game in whihc they lose way more offten than they win.
YOu think I'm rude because I bust on people and their statements sometimes? Well lemme tell you whats really rude.
Really rude is a guy or gal or someone else coming to this board and sharing the fact that they have ownership in a horse and then knocking or bashing their horses, thats whats rude.
Obviously Exceller has a percentage with West Point, Boldruler has friends who are tight with the Jackson's etc. See, I wouldn't and most others wouldn't bash or knock these people or their horses knowing that they are here and posting.
You are out of line guys, way out of line.
IEAh is a group of successful people who have been playing in the horse game quite successfully. They like to buy horses who are alrady proven runners, and even though you often pay more money for these types, its certainly a highe percentage move than paying 500 grand here and there for unproven yearlings.
Now mp3 sounds like a guy who may have invested in this group, or wants to or knows them. I don't know him from a hole in the ground. I haven't heard anyone bashing West point or the Jacksons, what the heck gives you the audacity to insult IEAH?
If someone comes on this site, and has ownership in a stable, you can bet your ass I'm not going to insult them or their horses.
By the way Iavarone is as sharp as any owner out there and has a good crew, especially Sherack.

I can't see where anyone bashed any horse. Sounds more like good competitive chatting. I just said that was a lot of money for a purchase of that horse. Thats my opinion and chats are 90% opinion. I even said it is horse racing and you never know. I must admit I did laugh at the 25K claimer comment, but I think people are joking. MP3 seems to be a smart guy but making the statement that this horse is up there with a BC Classic winner is going to get some comments. Like I said before though, it is horse racing and anything can happen.

"Way out of line" coming from Oracle's mouth. Well I will leave that one alone.

[mp3]

Mp3 did not say KP was up there with a breeders cup winner. He never compared KD to EC. Someone else compared SU to EC. I only made a suggestive comparison between SU and KD based upon turf experience and turf acclomplisments. That is it. I never have questioned the abilities or denegraded any horse mentioned in this conversation. I hope that KD wins even though I couyldn't buy him because I get the feeling that most posters on this board seem to think they have it all figured out

Originally Posted by monipenny

Boldruler in regards to times of workouts I have to agree with Oracle strongly on this one. Its not the time, it is the manner in which the horse trained and how well he finished- final times do not tell the whole story.

I try to limit myself to 10 posts a day and hate to waste one answering this, but if you read my statement above it says that people at the track told me Showing Up looked better than anyone in the morning works. EC is a proven great horse on the turf but obviously the Jackson's horse took a liking to the surface.

Originally Posted by Exceller

The best horse he ever trained? The guy had Saint Liam and has Silver Train. That horse is running with cheap allowance horses and won a race in TX on a terrible course. Good luck if you bet on him in that race although Dutrow will have him ready. Don't worry they didn't sell you any, if you wait about 8-10 months you can buy him in the 15K claimer at Aqueduct. Kidding.

Its time for soem crow eating here boys and girls!!! Just thought Exceller and Bold Ruler whould have this thread bumped up!!!! Exceller, how does his breeding look now? Looks pretty irrelevant to me and at 500 grand they got a bargain. They could get 2 mill for him off that incredible race!!!

[Storm Cadet]

EX COACH JARVIS PLEASE....as well as EX BOARD MEMBER

BTW Mike Jarvis was given a no show title by IEAH...he did nothing for the company.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Its time for soem crow eating here boys and girls!!! Just thought Exceller and Bold Ruler whould have this thread bumped up!!!! Exceller, how does his breeding look now? Looks pretty irrelevant to me and at 500 grand they got a bargain. They could get 2 mill for him off that incredible race!!!

Crow eating, with my money. I am not sure what I said other than that Showing Up would win, and he did. I said it before the race. As usual Oracle had the trifecta, but would give out his pick before the race even though i asked him 3x. Tough loss for Oracles guys, nice win for the Jacksons.

I now have Zero respect for Oracle, since I know he is full of it. If he really hit a triple he wouldn't be bashing Showing Up and saying Kip Deville will destroy him in a rematch. Sounds like a sore loser to me.