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Old 12-06-2008, 08:09 PM
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If there was a playoff system then you would never see a boise st. or utah win the championship. Ever.
Or BYU winning the NC by winning the '84 Holiday Bowl over a 6-5 Michigan. The only way that happened is with the "Bowl System". If there is a playoff, BYU doesn't make it out of the second round.
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:11 PM
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Arrogant bastard wants me to congratulate Florida when they stepped on our god damn player at the end of the game and Spikes took a hit on our QB. F.uck Florida and their jort-wearing fans.

You also were a facemask penalty away from losing both of your bets, douchenozzle.
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:16 PM
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Smile When rebels beat gators how much you lose?

When the rebels beat gators I bet you took a killing! The fact is florida lost and shouldn't be in championship game. To piss of bs meier should say sorry we lost and utah and boise state should play for championship. They haven't lost! Great point about byu by the way. Little guy can't win unless given chance!
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:21 PM
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When the rebels beat gators I bet you took a killing! The fact is florida lost and shouldn't be in championship game. To piss of bs meier should say sorry we lost and utah and boise state should play for championship. They haven't lost! Great point about byu by the way. Little guy can't win unless given chance!
My point about BYU was that it was a complete bull.s.hit national championship. I was not agreeing with you in any way shape or form. If a playoff system exists, BYU doesn't sniff the NC in '84. If there is a playoff this year, Utah and Boise don't stand a chance to win more than once before being bounced.

USC, Okalahoma, Texas, Florida, Alabama, Texas Tech, Penn State......etc....>>>>Boise and Utah.
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:41 PM
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No surprise to see the overrated Tide go down.



Just a damn shame we won't get to see that Trojan D suffocate the Gaytors next month...
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Old 12-06-2008, 09:21 PM
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No laughing matter, DaHoss9698


Trojans would stuff those Gaytors...
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Old 12-06-2008, 09:34 PM
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ask texas.about usc..uni-of spoiled children
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Old 12-06-2008, 10:07 PM
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No laughing matter, DaHoss9698


Trojans would stuff those Gaytors...
It is a laughing matter.

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Old 12-07-2008, 12:02 AM
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No laughing matter, DaHoss9698


Trojans would stuff those Gaytors...
shame that once again they won't make the title game to prove it, eh?
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:01 PM
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My point about BYU was that it was a complete bull.s.hit national championship. I was not agreeing with you in any way shape or form. If a playoff system exists, BYU doesn't sniff the NC in '84. If there is a playoff this year, Utah and Boise don't stand a chance to win more than once before being bounced.

USC, Okalahoma, Texas, Florida, Alabama, Texas Tech, Penn State......etc....>>>>Boise and Utah.
The problem tha i have with the current system is that if these teams like Utah and Boise dont have a chance to win the title then why are they in the same division? make a super division 1 with all the power conferences and have seperate playoffs or whatever. While there is no doubt they would be unlikely to be undefeated in bigger conferences what else can those teams do except win every game? Unlike the NCAA tourney in basketball, football is settled with ridiclous computer polls and opinions, rather than the results on the field. The perfect example is Texas beats OK, Texas Texh beat Texas, Ok beats Texas Tech. Who is better? Why should what you or I or anyone else thinks matter? A playoff will settle matters. It isnt about who is the "best" team or who would win the most if they played 100 times. It is about winning the game on the field. Naturally there would be some controversy about who gets in and the 9th and 10th teams will cry but there has to be a cut off somewhere. This isnt 1970 anymore where a few teams are vastly superior to everyone else and carry 125 scholarship players. Just about anyone can beat anyone on a given day and to not have a playoff system is unfair to everyone. The reasons given against the system are so ludicrious that I cant believe that they are made with a straight face. The Conferences like the Pac 10 and Big 10 that hold it up should simply be excluded from a system until they drop thier opposition. If the SEC, Big 12, ACC, Big East, Wac, Mountain west, Conference USA and MAC all joined together to have a seperate playoff system the Big 10 and Pac 10 would be screwed and have to join in. I still dont see why the "bowls" have so much power over college football when they arent even part of the NCAA or any of the schools.
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Old 12-07-2008, 02:01 PM
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one problem with the current system is that there is still a bias towards certain schools/regions due to their tradition and history-it explains why osu (for example)begins the season practically every year ranked very high. it also explain why just a couple of years ago, many wanted a rematch between osu/mich in the title game, rather than fla getting in.
if utah and boise st want to get more recognition, they can begin by changing their schedules in future, and taking on some tougher non-conference opponents. they are currently considered the 'peppers pride' of bcs football. if they want to fight amongst the supposed power houses, they can help control their destiny. BUT, they still fight an uphill battle, because ratings still matter-witness osu possibly getting a bcs bowl, rather than the higher-ranked utah.

and for anyone still wondering why the current system is in place, and seemingly unchangeable--i recommend finding the dec 1 issue of SI, and reading the article titled 'ka-ching!' by terry mcdonnell.
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Old 12-07-2008, 02:38 PM
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one problem with the current system is that there is still a bias towards certain schools/regions due to their tradition and history-it explains why osu (for example)begins the season practically every year ranked very high. it also explain why just a couple of years ago, many wanted a rematch between osu/mich in the title game, rather than fla getting in.
if utah and boise st want to get more recognition, they can begin by changing their schedules in future, and taking on some tougher non-conference opponents. they are currently considered the 'peppers pride' of bcs football. if they want to fight amongst the supposed power houses, they can help control their destiny. BUT, they still fight an uphill battle, because ratings still matter-witness osu possibly getting a bcs bowl, rather than the higher-ranked utah.
and for anyone still wondering why the current system is in place, and seemingly unchangeable--i recommend finding the dec 1 issue of SI, and reading the article titled 'ka-ching!' by terry mcdonnell.
Couple of things. For schools like Utah and Boise St, it is very difficult scheduling non-conference opponents. A lot of the big schools want nothing to do with them because they can be a very tough opponent. Also, if they were to get a big name opponent to take the game, it's almost always going to have to be a road game for Utah or Boise St. No way in the world do the big time power schools take road games at one of those types of places. It's too risky. Second thing is that Utah will be in a BCS bowl this year. They are automatically in. OSU is in competition with Boise St for a spot.
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Old 12-07-2008, 02:46 PM
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one problem with the current system is that there is still a bias towards certain schools/regions due to their tradition and history-it explains why osu (for example)begins the season practically every year ranked very high. it also explain why just a couple of years ago, many wanted a rematch between osu/mich in the title game, rather than fla getting in.
if utah and boise st want to get more recognition, they can begin by changing their schedules in future, and taking on some tougher non-conference opponents. they are currently considered the 'peppers pride' of bcs football. if they want to fight amongst the supposed power houses, they can help control their destiny. BUT, they still fight an uphill battle, because ratings still matter-witness osu possibly getting a bcs bowl, rather than the higher-ranked utah.
and for anyone still wondering why the current system is in place, and seemingly unchangeable--i recommend finding the dec 1 issue of SI, and reading the article titled 'ka-ching!' by terry mcdonnell.
Utah does get a BCS Bowl game, they will play Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. The following is the procedure for a non BCS conference team to play in a BCS bowl game>

3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:


A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.
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Old 12-07-2008, 08:07 PM
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one problem with the current system is that there is still a bias towards certain schools/regions due to their tradition and history-it explains why osu (for example)begins the season practically every year ranked very high. it also explain why just a couple of years ago, many wanted a rematch between osu/mich in the title game, rather than fla getting in.
if utah and boise st want to get more recognition, they can begin by changing their schedules in future, and taking on some tougher non-conference opponents. they are currently considered the 'peppers pride' of bcs football. if they want to fight amongst the supposed power houses, they can help control their destiny. BUT, they still fight an uphill battle, because ratings still matter-witness osu possibly getting a bcs bowl, rather than the higher-ranked utah.

and for anyone still wondering why the current system is in place, and seemingly unchangeable--i recommend finding the dec 1 issue of SI, and reading the article titled 'ka-ching!' by terry mcdonnell.
Utah and Boise are hardly desirable non-conference teams for major conference teams to schedule. The SEC teams wont want to schedule them, the Big 12 teams wont want them. They will claim their inconference schedules are too hard to play a tougher out of conference teams. Utah has played at Michigan, at Louisville, oregon state (2x) the last 2 years. They won the Fiesta bowl a few year ago in a laugher. Boise St plays in a weaker conference that Utah but noone any good will go and play on that blue field and they have a rep from beating Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl.
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:16 PM
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Arrogant bastard wants me to congratulate Florida when they stepped on our god damn player at the end of the game and Spikes took a hit on our QB. F.uck Florida and their jort-wearing fans.

You also were a facemask penalty away from losing both of your bets, douchenozzle.
When they start not paying bets based on what might have happened, we'll all be in trouble won't we?
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:17 PM
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When they start not paying bets based on what might have happened, we'll all be in trouble won't we?
Sure thing, tard-o. I've been posting football picks on here for 3 years. Enjoy your one win. Let me know when you want to take the Pepsi Challenge.
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:20 PM
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Sure thing, tard-o. I've been posting football picks on here for 3 years. Enjoy your one win. Let me know when you want to take the Pepsi Challenge.
Feb 30th, 2011. And you better be there.
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