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Old 12-01-2008, 01:13 PM
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How bad are our horses when the Cigar is won with a 106 and the Clark with a 101? Are they really barely better the 2yo's that won the Remsen and the Golden Rod? Things are even worse than I thought.
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:21 PM
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How bad are our horses when the Cigar is won with a 106 and the Clark with a 101? Are they really barely better the 2yo's that won the Remsen and the Golden Rod? Things are even worse than I thought.
well how about the Matriarch, the defining race of the year at a mile for grass fillies, won by a horse who's only loss is to Zenyatta, and the best they could muster was a 96!
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:45 PM
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well how about the Matriarch, the defining race of the year at a mile for grass fillies, won by a horse who's only loss is to Zenyatta, and the best they could muster was a 96!
Yeah, that was not great but it was a turf race and turf numbers have always been pretty meaningless to me.
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:55 PM
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Yeah, that was not great but it was a turf race and turf numbers have always been pretty meaningless to me.
I think you can throw synthetic racing in as well.
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