2009 Graded Stakes

King Glorious · #1 11-25-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Fair point, but by that logic the Virginia Derby should be a G1 over the Jamaica, IMO. Gio Ponti, Red Giant, Go Between, English Channel, Kitten's Joy, and Silver Tree are the last 6 winners. Find me a better turf race for 3YO's than that.

And I have pictures of two of the last four winners of the Jamaica hanging in my house.

You'd get no argument from me at all. I think the VA Derby should be the higher rated of the two.

On the subject of the Arkansas Derby, I think it's ridiculous that it's not on par with the Blue Grass, Wood, Florida Derby, and SA Derby. I think they should all be grade two races since they are preps for the real big one but I'm not going to argue whether they should be one's or two's. Whatever they are, they should all be the same. To have the Arkansas Derby as the same grade as it's prep, the Rebel, is beyond stupid.

blackthroatedwind · #2 11-25-2008, 06:22 PM

Monterey Jazz is now running in the Cigar.

Linny · #3 11-25-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Monterey Jazz is now running in the Cigar.

Was that intended to impress me?

When he's right he's a pretty good horse. There's not much out there but with Commentator and Magna Graduate and Einstein in KY there's not much left.

blackthroatedwind · #4 11-25-2008, 06:41 PM

No, I just saw it on DRF, and found it interesting and surprising. It certainly adds a lot to the race.

Linny · #5 11-25-2008, 08:14 PM

Without the pp's I don't remember if his tailing off coincided with Polytrack ala Arson Squad. Obviously he's pretty deadly on the lead and Commentator's absence leaves a spot in the front of the race.

blackthroatedwind · #6 11-25-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny

Without the pp's I don't remember if his tailing off coincided with Polytrack ala Arson Squad. Obviously he's pretty deadly on the lead and Commentator's absence leaves a spot in the front of the race.

You're badly confused. He didn't tail off.....he ran a monster race, albeit while setting a very slow pace, in the Texas Mile and then was injured preparing for the Met Mile.

Linny · #7 11-25-2008, 08:20 PM

I must be thinking of some other horse. Now that you reminded me of the Texas race, I remember Monterey Jazz. Now I remember that he was hurt. Now I have to figure out who I was thinking of that tailed off, in addition to Arson Squad...

asudevil · #8 11-26-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You're badly confused. He didn't tail off.....he ran a monster race, albeit while setting a very slow pace, in the Texas Mile and then was injured preparing for the Met Mile.

That ****in' Lone Star surface hurts a lot of horses.....Place sucks.