Prince of Change reaches for dangerous 'retreads!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

lol'ers need to go to e-harmony you homo's.


lol

NOW THAT'S FUNNY!

[somerfrost]

Poor Timm...I feel so sorry for you hollier-than-thou conservative types, having to suffer for eight years while President Obama and his "dangerous retreads" govern...oh wait, no I don't!!!! While you and Rush think up more fear-mongering names to use consider that your side just inherited a new handle....LOSERS!!!! When anyone was critical of the policies of Bush, you guys were quick to imply they were non-patriotic...well, what goes around....!
Obama isn't even in office yet and Chicken Little appears..."the sky is falling!!!"

[Danzig]

yeah...goodness knows holier than thou liberals are waaaaaay better.

holier than thou anythings suck.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah...goodness knows holier than thou liberals are waaaaaay better.

holier than thou anythings suck.

Glad I'm neither liberal or conservative....guess I'm a holier-than-thou radical...lol!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah...goodness knows holier than thou liberals are waaaaaay better.

holier than thou anythings suck.

LMFAO ... good post, Deb.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Poor Timm...I feel so sorry for you hollier-than-thou conservative types, having to suffer for eight years while President Obama and his "dangerous retreads" govern...oh wait, no I don't!!!! While you and Rush think up more fear-mongering names to use consider that your side just inherited a new handle....LOSERS!!!! When anyone was critical of the policies of Bush, you guys were quick to imply they were non-patriotic...well, what goes around....!
Obama isn't even in office yet and Chicken Little appears..."the sky is falling!!!"

Relax,Somer, you must have me confused with your 'other' conservative friends. You categorize anyone with different beliefs, just don't lie about it,huh? You're correct..the sky is falling(no matter who's in office) but the Empty Suit is already talking about 'dark times'....not exactly the same tune he was whistling for the last year,huh?

[Danzig]

c'mon timmi, even the pres said to remain calm, all is well, right before the bottom dropped out. things didn't look too bad, and then went straight to hell. of course the tune has to change, else you look like someone who is not in touch with reality.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

c'mon timmi, even the pres said to remain calm, all is well, right before the bottom dropped out. things didn't look too bad, and then went straight to hell. of course the tune has to change, else you look like someone who is not in touch with reality.

So everything he said was just to get elected? He and his minions portrayed
a wiser person, deeply in touch with the problems of this country..and now he says...whoa, it might take 10 yrs? Well...you got what you wanted....we'll
all have to live with it!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

So everything he said was just to get elected? He and his minions portrayed
a wiser person, deeply in touch with the problems of this country..and now he says...whoa, it might take 10 yrs? Well...you got what you wanted....we'll
all have to live with it!

of course everything he said, as well as everything mccain said, was to get elected. anyone who thought obama could do everything he said, is dreaming-since we all know (those who paid attention in civics that is) that presidents don't write legislation.
as for the 'me getting what i wanted' remark, i didn't vote for obama-or mccain for that matter....

and these are dark times-you really want obama to keep on talking about all his rosy wishes right now? he'd look like a fool, and he knows that.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Danzig

of course everything he said, as well as everything mccain said, was to get elected. anyone who thought obama could do everything he said, is dreaming-since we all know (those who paid attention in civics that is) that presidents don't write legislation.
as for me getting what i wanted, i didn't vote for obama-or mccain for that matter....

wow..I guess you're absolved,then.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

So everything he said was just to get elected? He and his minions portrayed
a wiser person, deeply in touch with the problems of this country..and now he says...whoa, it might take 10 yrs? Well...you got what you wanted....we'll
all have to live with it!

Yes we ALL will...and I'm lovin' it! Change is a process, not a magic trick. We all know that Obama can do nothing to appease you Timm...but it sure is amusing to listen to you wail...as others have said, LOL!!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Yes we ALL will...and I'm lovin' it! Change is a process, not a magic trick. We all know that Obama can do nothing to appease you Timm...but it sure is amusing to listen to you wail...as others have said, LOL!!!

him and many others...he hasn't even taken office yet, and already the wailing and gnashing of teeth...ridiculous.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Relax,Somer, you must have me confused with your 'other' conservative friends. You categorize anyone with different beliefs, just don't lie about it,huh? You're correct..the sky is falling(no matter who's in office) but the Empty Suit is already talking about 'dark times'....not exactly the same tune he was whistling for the last year,huh?

You're the one calling names...empty suit etc. I don't lie, I don't like conservative ideology, especially when it intertwines religion with politics!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

You're the one calling names...empty suit etc. I don't lie, I don't like conservative ideology, especially when it intertwines religion with politics!

I wasn't calling YOU names though, was I! I dont mix religion and politics!
Again...intellectually slovenly of you,Somer!

[steve]

no...they only tell a WOMAN WHAT SHE COULD AND COULD NOT DO.. THEY PREACH ABOTION IS MURDER YET KILL THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE WITH THERE "SHOCK AND AWE"... NOMINATE A WOMAN TO BE SECOND IN COMMAND THAT WENT TO 5 COLLEGES BEFORE GRADUTATING..., NOMINATED A RETREAD FOR PRESIDENT...YOU PROBABLY HATED MCCAIN THE FIRST TIME HE RAN BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE A NICE FOLLOW ALONG YOU WILL DEFEND HIM AND HIS LIKE FOREVER....THERE IS REALLY NO POINT IN THIS ...AND I AM SORRY I EVER RESPONDED IN THE FIRST PLACE

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by steve

no...they only tell a WOMAN WHAT SHE COULD AND COULD NOT DO.. THEY PREACH ABOTION IS MURDER YET KILL THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE WITH THERE "SHOCK AND AWE"... NOMINATE A WOMAN TO BE SECOND IN COMMAND THAT WENT TO 5 COLLEGES BEFORE GRADUTATING..., NOMINATED A RETREAD FOR PRESIDENT...YOU PROBABLY HATED MCCAIN THE FIRST TIME HE RAN BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE A NICE FOLLOW ALONG YOU WILL DEFEND HIM AND HIS LIKE FOREVER....THERE IS REALLY NO POINT IN THIS ...AND I AM SORRY I EVER RESPONDED IN THE FIRST PLACE

McCain was the lesser of two evils. Any true conservative will agree with that. With that said, I can only hope that Obama accepts responsibility for his actions once he is in office ... one can say plenty of bad things about President Bush, but at least he hasn't pointed fingers at others to take the blame for things he has made decisions on. JMO.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by steve

no...they only tell a WOMAN WHAT SHE COULD AND COULD NOT DO.. THEY PREACH ABOTION IS MURDER YET KILL THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE WITH THERE "SHOCK AND AWE"... NOMINATE A WOMAN TO BE SECOND IN COMMAND THAT WENT TO 5 COLLEGES BEFORE GRADUTATING..., NOMINATED A RETREAD FOR PRESIDENT...YOU PROBABLY HATED MCCAIN THE FIRST TIME HE RAN BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE A NICE FOLLOW ALONG YOU WILL DEFEND HIM AND HIS LIKE FOREVER....THERE IS REALLY NO POINT IN THIS ...AND I AM SORRY I EVER RESPONDED IN THE FIRST PLACE

...time for your blood pressure pills,bub!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

You're the one calling names...empty suit etc. I don't lie, I don't like conservative ideology, especially when it intertwines religion with politics!

WTF, Somer? And Obama hasn't mentioned religion/politics in the same breath? Please step off of your high horse for one second ...

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

WTF, Somer? And Obama hasn't mentioned religion/politics in the same breath? Please step off of your high horse for one second ...

Every time I give my opinion you respond with your condescending crap, I guess when you really don't have the tools to engage in intellectual debate you have to rely on sound bite rhetoric. See if you can follow this....comparing Obama's use of religion (in many cases defending himself against attacks by right wing wackos that he's a Islamic terrorist etc) to the Christian conservative rantings of the likes of Pat Robertson, Falwell etc. is void of reason. The folks I campaign against want to dictate who you can love, how you can love them and where you can love them. They want to invoke their "Christian" (read fanatical fundamentalism) values on all of us. These are the folks who picket at the funerals of American servicemen and women holding signs saying those brave defenders of our freedoms are burning in hell cause they died in the defense of a free society that allows folks to dare love the "wrong person". They want to control what you can watch on TV and at the movies, they aren't real fond of folks of color, and would prefer women to be barefoot and pregnant. Sure, I'm talking now about the radical religious right but far too many so-called "compassionate conservatives" and "mainstream" Christian folks drink the Koolade! Timm obviously isn't a fanatic (even though I admit enjoying pulling his chain still), but he falls into the trap of defending the mindset...his fanatical (and yes, that word applies here) hatred of Obama is troubling to me, calling the President-elect names before he takes office, attacking his every move before allowing him the opportunity to govern is indicative of the politics of fear and hatred that the religious (far) right is known for...McCain and Palin briefly exhibited this idiocy before McCain listened to the angels of his better nature and backed off...a move that may have cost him some votes among the fundamentalists but gained back a lot of the respect that folks like me have for him. I don't hate McCain or Palin, I admire them for their service and wish them well but I'm not hearing similar attitudes from their supporters...especially those who intertwine their religious beliefs with politics!

[timmgirvan]

[quote=somerfrost]Every time I give my opinion you respond with your condescending crap, I guess when you really don't have the tools to engage in intellectual debate you have to rely on sound bite rhetoric. See if you can follow this....comparing Obama's use of religion (in many cases defending himself against attacks by right wing wackos that he's a Islamic terrorist etc) to the Christian conservative rantings of the likes of Pat Robertson, Falwell etc. is void of reason. The folks I campaign against want to dictate who you can love, how you can love them and where you can love them. They want to invoke their "Christian" (read fanatical fundamentalism) values on all of us. These are the folks who picket at the funerals of American servicemen and women holding signs saying those brave defenders of our freedoms are burning in hell cause they died in the defense of a free society that allows folks to dare love the "wrong person". They want to control what you can watch on TV and at the movies, they aren't real fond of folks of color, and would prefer women to be barefoot and pregnant. Sure, I'm talking now about the radical religious right but far too many so-called "compassionate conservatives" and "mainstream" Christian folks drink the Koolade! Timm obviously isn't a fanatic (even though I admit enjoying pulling his chain still), but he falls into the trap of defending the mindset...his fanatical (and yes, that word applies here) hatred of Obama is troubling to me, calling the President-elect names before he takes office, attacking his every move before allowing him the opportunity to govern is indicative of the politics of fear and hatred that the religious (far) right is known for...McCain and Palin briefly exhibited this idiocy before McCain listened to the angels of his better nature and backed off...a move that may have cost him some votes among the fundamentalists but gained back a lot of the respect that folks like me have for him. I don't hate McCain or Palin, I admire them for their service and wish them well but I'm not hearing similar attitudes from their supporters...especially those who intertwine their religious beliefs with politics![/QUOTE

Somer: there is SO much wrong with your post....1) you know damn well Falwell and Robertson don't speak for the majority of conservatives 2) Even worse, you attach Christianity with the likes of Westbro charlatans( I would hope they're run over by the Bikers who've been at the funerals) 3) Regardless of what you say of the President Elect(how's that) there is so much that we don't know or have conveniently dismissed about this man....he's not been vetted completely...certainly not with same vehemence directed at McCain/Palin. 4) McCains' campaign was the worst run campaign in decades, partly due to the splintered GOP, who can't figure out what they stand for in matching up to the Dems. I could go on..but the election is over