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Old 11-23-2008, 07:22 PM
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Yeah it's not an important position, just the same as the other 10 guys and dont forget the punter...

and Miami is 6-5 which is about right for CP compared to last years mess

Are you of the opinion that FL doesnt have a huge advantage at QB?
I'm of the opinion that Tebow is overrated and has been the beneficiary of his competition completely self-destructing under pressure. That didn't happen against Mississippi and Jesus Christ Superstar couldn't get the job done...just like last year.

I'm so sick of hearing about this guy I can puke. I hope Cody pancakes the b.itch.
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Old 11-23-2008, 07:28 PM
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I'm of the opinion that Tebow is overrated and has been the beneficiary of his competition completely self-destructing under pressure. That didn't happen against Mississippi and Jesus Christ Superstar couldn't get the job done...just like last year.

I'm so sick of hearing about this guy I can puke. I hope Cody pancakes the b.itch.
Tebow is surely a system guy but he doesnt make many mistakes. He has passed the ball 575 times the past 2 years and has 8 interceptions. Thats pretty good.
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Old 11-23-2008, 07:31 PM
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Tebow is surely a system guy but he doesnt make many mistakes. He has passed the ball 575 times the past 2 years and has 8 interceptions. Thats pretty good.
You know what's interesting about these Jesus freak types like Tebow? They break under pressure. He's 0 for 5 when trailing in the second half.

Why did they lose to Mississippi. Defense. They met a defense that shut down every reciever and running back outside of Harvin.

Also...Snead didn't have the best of games. The running game is what kept the Rebels in it.

Who has a great defense and a solid running game? Bama.

I can't wait.
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Old 11-23-2008, 08:02 PM
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Tebow is surely a system guy but he doesnt make many mistakes. He has passed the ball 575 times the past 2 years and has 8 interceptions. Thats pretty good.
I'm sure of one thi9ng... Tebow will be an AWFUL NFL quarterback.
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Old 11-23-2008, 08:17 PM
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I'm sure of one thi9ng... Tebow will be an AWFUL NFL quarterback.
he Could be a Big Ben type but he'll have to find the right system. right place, right system, right time is what the nfl is all about.
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Old 11-23-2008, 08:56 PM
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he Could be a Big Ben type but he'll have to find the right system. right place, right system, right time is what the nfl is all about.
????????

Did you see Roethlisberger when he was in college? He was a total stud and he wasnt doing it out of a bulls.hit spread offense. I really don't know what you mean by "big ben type". Roethlisberger would have made it in the NFL regardless of any of the conditions although I do agree that degree of success could have been differrent.

What do you think the "right system" would be for Tebow? What skills or mechanics has he shown that could even make him a qb for nfl europe let alone the big league?

Personally, I think he could make a nice H back type like Chris Cooley.
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Old 11-23-2008, 09:03 PM
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Regardless of Tebows NFL possibilities he is a much better college QB than Parker Wilson. He is a gimmick guy in a NCAA only offense but he is very efficient. Parker Wilson is a try not to blow it guy.
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Old 11-23-2008, 09:13 PM
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Regardless of Tebows NFL possibilities he is a much better college QB than Parker Wilson. He is a gimmick guy in a NCAA only offense but he is very efficient. Parker Wilson is a try not to blow it guy.
Thats a fair assessment.

The difference between Bama and these other teams that Fla is rolling on is defense. Bama is quicker at the edge than any other team that Fla has faced and they are more stout up the middle. Tebow isnt going to see his ends running streaks across the middle wide open with no safety help because Bama doesnt need to commit as many to stop the run.

Bama will make Tebow beat them through the air and i dont think he can do it.
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Old 11-24-2008, 07:20 AM
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Regardless of Tebows NFL possibilities he is a much better college QB than Parker Wilson. He is a gimmick guy in a NCAA only offense but he is very efficient. Parker Wilson is a try not to blow it guy.
That's like comparing Curlin to Mercury...

on a more realistic level, who would you draft, Tebow or one of the Big XII three headed monster (Harrell, Bradford, McCoy)? For an NFL team, I would take one of the Big XII guys in a heartbeat. Tebow reminds me of Eric Crouch with a better arm and better talent around him. He'll get a shot at QB but as Dala suggested, he's such a good athlete he'd probably be better off playing a different position in the NFL.
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Old 11-24-2008, 06:43 AM
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????????

Did you see Roethlisberger when he was in college? He was a total stud and he wasnt doing it out of a bulls.hit spread offense. I really don't know what you mean by "big ben type". Roethlisberger would have made it in the NFL regardless of any of the conditions although I do agree that degree of success could have been differrent.

What do you think the "right system" would be for Tebow? What skills or mechanics has he shown that could even make him a qb for nfl europe let alone the big league?
he can manage the game. Big Ben's first 2 yrs in the league that was his job. just don't lose the game but you don't have to win it. Trent Dilfer has a SB ring that way and should probably have a second with the Bucs.
Tebow is big, strong and probably has a stronger arm than Ben. he even has nice touch on the ball when he needs too. he can make plays with his feet. in the nfl, can he "get the ball out quickly" and most import can he "fit it into the Right spot"?
i just don't think Tebow is superman that the media makes him out to be. he's a nice qb with ridiculous talent around him.
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he can manage the game. Big Ben's first 2 yrs in the league that was his job. just don't lose the game but you don't have to win it. Trent Dilfer has a SB ring that way and should probably have a second with the Bucs.
Tebow is big, strong and probably has a stronger arm than Ben. he even has nice touch on the ball when he needs too. he can make plays with his feet. in the nfl, can he "get the ball out quickly" and most import can he "fit it into the Right spot"?
i just don't think Tebow is superman that the media makes him out to be. he's a nice qb with ridiculous talent around him.
Roethlisberger's contribution to the steelers teams in his first two years is VASTLY underrated. Yes, they had a great running game. Yes, they had a superb defense. At the same time, Big Ben made some great throws especially in the AFC title game in Denver. He actually "won" quite a few games.

Dilfer was a care taker but he was a veteran of 6 seasons before he won the superbowl with the Ravens. Besides that he always had moderate skills.

Tebow can't hit the broad side of a barn. He has receievers with tremendous amount of speed being virtually uncovered that can catch up to his poorly thrown balls. His throwing motion/mechanics are absolutely abysmal and the only thing worse is his footwork and his accuracy on short passes.

He would make an interesting tight end/h back type like dallas clark or chris cooley.

He is no NFL QB under any system.
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Old 11-24-2008, 08:33 AM
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I'm sure of one thi9ng... Tebow will be an AWFUL NFL quarterback.

I do not agree with ya Philski.
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Old 11-24-2008, 08:53 AM
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I do not agree with ya Philski.
Urban Meyer is an incredible college coach that gets more than the best out of his players. Look what his players have done in the NFL...



not much.



Just because you live near GainesHickville doesn't mean you have to defend him, Ms. Penn State Wildcat
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Urban Meyer is an incredible college coach that gets more than the best out of his players. Look what his players have done in the NFL...

not much.

Just because you live near GainesHickville doesn't mean you have to defend him, Ms. Penn State Wildcat
Mr. TebowChristSuperStar is a heck of a good QB IMO. He can throw, run, has a BRAIN, and he inspires his teammates to play better (see Ol' Miss press conference).

He set basically every record a QB can for the state of FL in high school... (except I think a lot of records were broken last year by Tebow's backup)

I think Tebow will be in the top 6 or 7 QB's in the NFL and I think he will be much better than Sissy McNabb. (but that is not saying much)
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:50 AM
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Mr. TebowChristSuperStar is a heck of a good QB IMO. He can throw, run, has a BRAIN, and he inspires his teammates to play better (see Ol' Miss press conference).

He set basically every record a QB can for the state of FL in high school... (except I think a lot of records were broken last year by Tebow's backup)

I think Tebow will be in the top 6 or 7 QB's in the NFL and I think he will be much better than Sissy McNabb. (but that is not saying much)
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be nice to my boy McNabb. And there is 0% chance Tebow will be anywhere CLOSE to McNabb... if he is...



I'm leaving.
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:13 PM
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Mr. TebowChristSuperStar is a heck of a good QB IMO. He can throw, run, has a BRAIN, and he inspires his teammates to play better (see Ol' Miss press conference).

He set basically every record a QB can for the state of FL in high school... (except I think a lot of records were broken last year by Tebow's backup)

I think Tebow will be in the top 6 or 7 QB's in the NFL and I think he will be much better than Sissy McNabb. (but that is not saying much)
Phliadelphia is a tough town. Guy gets to a superbowl and four NFC title games and he isnt much of a QB. Tough, tough town.

McNabb is the best QB that town has seen in a long, long time. Comparing Tebow to Mcnabb on an NFL level should be considered criminal.
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