Zapper and Bernardini

#1 08-26-2006, 06:57 PM

No one has more right to be enthusiastic about Bernardini than I ...

... so listen up ... because I speak with the authority of first discovery ...

... the most that can be said for Bernardini ... as of today ... is that he's the best 3YO colt since Sunday Silence and Easy Goer.

That's it ... no more than that ... but ...

... stay tuned ... because there may be an update in the next few weeks.

End of discussion.

Seattleallstar · #2 08-26-2006, 06:59 PM

The Breeders Cup classic will be nothing more than a coronation for Bernardini, its a damn shame he isnt owned by Americans

#3 08-26-2006, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

The Breeders Cup classic will be nothing more than a coronation for Bernardini, its a damn shame he isnt owned by Americans

Well it certainly makes the resident board terrorist sympathizer and the board darley/godolphin suck up resident happy.

irishtrekker · #4 08-26-2006, 07:07 PM

Mike, please, please don't throw words like that around ("terrorist sympathizer"). It makes me sort of sick. You're a really smart guy who knows his stuff, so let that speak for itself.

To continue the thread, I can't envision Bernardini having too much trouble with the older horses now, either. This isn't a particularly strong year for them, although maybe LM will give him a little trouble if they both go to the front. Should be a good Classic.

#5 08-26-2006, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by irishtrekker

Mike, please, please don't throw words like that around ("terrorist sympathizer"). It makes me sort of sick. You're a really smart guy who knows his stuff, so let that speak for itself.

To continue the thread, I can't envision Bernardini having too much trouble with the older horses now, either. This isn't a particularly strong year for them, although maybe LM will give him a little trouble if they both go to the front. Should be a good Classic.

The guy has admitted as much, ask Scuds. It sickens me to be in the presence of such a person, even if its on the net.

Danzig · #6 08-26-2006, 07:12 PM

the jcgc next....

isn't invasor headed there?

Betsy · #7 08-26-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by irishtrekker

Mike, please, please don't throw words like that around ("terrorist sympathizer"). It makes me sort of sick. You're a really smart guy who knows his stuff, so let that speak for itself.

To continue the thread, I can't envision Bernardini having too much trouble with the older horses now, either. This isn't a particularly strong year for them, although maybe LM will give him a little trouble if they both go to the front. Should be a good Classic.

We're all terrorist sympathizers now - either Bernardini fans or people who think Bernardini is a very fine racehorse.

Danzig · #8 08-26-2006, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

We're all terrorist sympathizers now - either Bernardini fans or people who think Bernardini is a very fine racehorse.

well then apparently one hundred percent of the posters here are sympathizers, since everyone is in agreement that he's a very fine racehorse!!

#9 08-26-2006, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

well then apparently one hundred percent of the posters here are sympathizers, since everyone is in agreement that he's a very fine racehorse!!

YOu can count me in that group as well(if thats how some idiot defined it, not realizing the comment was directed at a certain person, not anyone who liked a horse owned by Arabs). I happen to think Henny Hughes is awesome myself.
Amazing that so many supposedly intelligent people can misinterpret a comment and then build on it and add total fiction to it.

somerfrost · #10 08-26-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

well then apparently one hundred percent of the posters here are sympathizers, since everyone is in agreement that he's a very fine racehorse!!

A fine racehorse indeed but lets not get carried away here...he went 2:01.60 today, setting a rather pedestrian pace and was clearly better than the field. His one challenger, Bluegrass Cat ran his race and tried to pressure Bernardini but nothing else was a factor from start to finish. Bernardini ran the following fractions: 23.53, 24.64, 24.55, 24.11, 24.77...very workmanlike and more than enough but this was not a real test for this horse! Against older horses, he will have to do more! Can't get a feel for how the track was speed-wise today as all the other dirt races were 7f or less...seemed about average at the shorter distances, grade one 7f went in 121.96, a NW2 Alw in 121.95 earlier. Compare this race with replays of the Derby with fractions of 46 flat, 110 4/5 and a final time of 201.36...different track, different everything...not trying to compare times but Barbaro's Derby was so much more impressive visually to me! Lets not play "New kid in town" here....Bernardini is a special horse and may prove to be a great horse, but he's not better than The Bid and Secretariat, not yet proven to me that he's better than Smarty Jones or Afleet Alex! Right now, I still think Barbaro is the best we've seen this year...lets see what happens in the JCGC and the BCC. One last thing...the horse was 2-5 today...this was not a surprise! He faced one legit G-1 horse and that horse was taken out of his normal running style to provide early pressure....

#11 08-26-2006, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

We're all terrorist sympathizers now - either Bernardini fans or people who think Bernardini is a very fine racehorse.

You are really stupid, really. I never called anyone who liked this horse(I happen to love Henny Hughes as much as you guys love Bernadin) a terrorist sympathizer.

To thee best of my knowledge Sheikh Mo is nothing but an honorable sportsman with a sense of decency.

A particular poster here used to post on ESPN and was outspoken in his defense of those who acted against the US. Scuds spotted him before I did. Note his lack of denial.

We are at war, and before I am a horse racing fan or anything else I am a proud American. The presence of such a person is sickening.

Betsy · #12 08-26-2006, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

You are really stupid, really. I never called anyone who liked this horse(I happen to love Henny Hughes as much as you guys love Bernadin) a terrorist sympathizer.

To thee best of my knowledge Sheikh Mo is nothing but an honorable sportsman with a sense of decency.

A particular poster here used to post on ESPN and was outspoken in his defense of those who acted against the US. Scuds spotted him before I did. Note his lack of denial.

We are at war, and before I am a horse racing fan or anything else I am a proud American. The presence of such a person is sickening.

Then I categorically apologize, Oracle. I'd like to remove my post, but at this point, it's too late. Nuff said on the subject, I agree with you.

And yes, I am stupid because I should have read more closely all the posts on the subject before making a dumb comment. It's an unfortunate habit of mine.

#13 08-26-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

To thee best of my knowledge Sheikh Mo is nothing but an honorable sportsman with a sense of decency.

The Makhtoums are nowhere near being terrorists ...

... they're just kleptocrats ... who rule their little sheikdom with an iron fist under a velvet glove ...

... and keep whatever they want for themselves.

Nice work if you can get it.

2Hot4TV · #14 08-26-2006, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

No one has more right to be enthusiastic about Bernardini than I ...

... so listen up ... because I speak with the authority of first discovery ...

... the most that can be said for Bernardini ... as of today ... is that he's the best 3YO colt since Sunday Silence and Easy Goer.

That's it ... no more than that ... but ...

... stay tuned ... because there may be an update in the next few weeks.

End of discussion.

Maybe better. Well see after the Classic and it looks like we might have a heck of a race.

dalakhani · #15 08-27-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

No one has more right to be enthusiastic about Bernardini than I ...

... so listen up ... because I speak with the authority of first discovery ...

... the most that can be said for Bernardini ... as of today ... is that he's the best 3YO colt since Sunday Silence and Easy Goer.

That's it ... no more than that ... but ...

... stay tuned ... because there may be an update in the next few weeks.

End of discussion.

Better than Holy Bull?

#16 08-27-2006, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

Better than Holy Bull?

I said it's "the most that can be said" ... setting an outer limit for the goo-goos ...

... not that it's necessarily true.

My posts must be read slowly and carefully ... studied, in fact ... because every word ... every phrase ... is a well-conceived gem ... to be enjoyed like fine wine.

dalakhani · #17 08-27-2006, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

I said it's "the most that can be said" ... setting an outer limit for the goo-goos ...

... not that it's necessarily true.

My posts must be read slowly and carefully ... studied, in fact ... because every word ... every phrase ... is a well-conceived gem ... to be enjoyed like fine wine.

Yeah, i really like your racing stuff.

I want to see him beat older horses. The talent is there but I like to see them beat really good horses before we say one way or the other. It will be an interesting fall to say the least.