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Old 08-25-2006, 02:46 PM
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“I felt I had ridden some nice horses – he’s just a beautiful horse. I didn’t ask him to do anything; he did it effortlessly. If anything, I was trying to keep him idled down. He was a little eager early on. They were setting those fast fractions down the backside and he was just galloping. When I pulled up, I told the outrider that he probably went in 1:22 or 1:23 because of the way the track has been. When I saw the teletimer (1:21.53), I was surprised.”

...do you get the feeling he was impressed?...Ahhh, yes....I take it that he feels like this is maybe the best horse he ever sat on by his comments.....WOW!

Anyone still believe the Shieks aren't trump tight?

They just might have a couple of the best horses in the last 10 years right now.....very impressive stuff....
And the field he beat wasnt all that bad. Joel, any thoughts on when he is racing again? Is it the Jerome?
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Old 08-25-2006, 02:48 PM
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I think this is the best horse in the world. He beat Invasor with ease and he beat some very good older horses today in a public workout. I just think he is better than anything out there. The Sheiks now have officially taken over american racing in my opinion.

I see a Bernardini-Invasor-Discreet Cat 1,2,3 in the BC Classic. Not sure which one wins but they will dominate this race. I am now a believer.

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Old 08-25-2006, 02:51 PM
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Oh ... good grief ...

.. these jockey quotes about "she's the best little filly I ever rode" ... are completely useless.

Nearly every veteran jockey has said the same thing ... or something similar ... about a dozen different horses in their careers.

NEXT !!!
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Old 08-25-2006, 03:01 PM
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Oh ... good grief ...

.. these jockey quotes about "she's the best little filly I ever rode" ... are completely useless.

Nearly every veteran jockey has said the same thing ... or something similar ... about a dozen different horses in their careers.

NEXT !!!
Sounds like someone that didn't see the race. It looked like he was out for a walk. The horses he beat are very good older horses. Discreet Cat continues to destroy good horses with little effort.
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Old 08-25-2006, 03:17 PM
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Sounds like someone that didn't see the race. It looked like he was out for a walk. The horses he beat are very good older horses. Discreet Cat continues to destroy good horses with little effort.
Seems like "someone" didn't read the other threads ...

... but then again ... "someone" ... despite the name change ... has always had his difficulties with reading comprehension.

Hey, Steve ... how's that Remedial Reading Comprehension forum coming along? It can't get here soon enough for "some" people.
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Old 08-25-2006, 03:24 PM
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Oh ... good grief ...

.. these jockey quotes about "she's the best little filly I ever rode" ... are completely useless.

Nearly every veteran jockey has said the same thing ... or something similar ... about a dozen different horses in their careers.

NEXT !!!
This one i agree with you on. But...the race was pretty nice.

Jockey quotes are useless.
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Old 08-25-2006, 03:32 PM
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I think Gary Stevens said "best I've ever ridden" at least ten times. Probably a lot more.
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Old 08-25-2006, 03:34 PM
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I think Gary Stevens said "best I've ever ridden" at least ten times. Probably a lot more.
That's about a month's quota for Gary.
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Old 08-25-2006, 09:05 PM
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I think Gary Stevens said "best I've ever ridden" at least ten times. Probably a lot more.
Very, very true.........
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Old 08-25-2006, 03:17 PM
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I think this is the best horse in the world. He beat Invasor with ease and he beat some very good older horses today in a public workout. I just think he is better than anything out there. The Sheiks now have officially taken over american racing in my opinion.

I see a Bernardini-Invasor-Discreet Cat 1,2,3 in the BC Classic. Not sure which one wins but they will dominate this race. I am now a believer.
I agree he is one of the best horses in the world...but that race on Dubai when he beat Invasor with ease is a little bit suspect.....since some of his big opponents (Gold for Sale and Simpatico Bribon) were detected with tranquilizants on their bloods after the race...lets see how he will do in a country where his owners do not decide who lives and who dies...
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Old 08-25-2006, 08:30 PM
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I agree he is one of the best horses in the world...but that race on Dubai when he beat Invasor with ease is a little bit suspect.....since some of his big opponents (Gold for Sale and Simpatico Bribon) were detected with tranquilizants on their bloods after the race...lets see how he will do in a country where his owners do not decide who lives and who dies...
that was never proven dude....
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Old 08-25-2006, 08:32 PM
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that was never proven dude....
I don't buy it either, bernardini is good, I think this one is their best and I just hope we all get to see it
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Old 08-25-2006, 09:49 PM
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that was never proven dude....
Actually, the trainer of those two horses had the horses tested himself and the tranqs were found. That is a fact. It is also a fact that the Dubai racing authorities did absolutely nothing about it.
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Old 08-25-2006, 11:00 PM
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Actually, the trainer of those two horses had the horses tested himself and the tranqs were found. That is a fact. It is also a fact that the Dubai racing authorities did absolutely nothing about it.
It sure is...
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Actually, the trainer of those two horses had the horses tested himself and the tranqs were found. That is a fact. It is also a fact that the Dubai racing authorities did absolutely nothing about it.
I hardly believe taht they would plot a conspiracy from the top to do something like that...hell, they don't have to....they are sporting type people with nothing to prove and they are really strict on their morals and i just can't see that, but whatever...that is just my feeling....just because those horses had tranqs in theior system doesn't mean that it was a conspiarcy from the top dog himself to cheat and win...i just can't see that as their style...i can't....they believe in respect in decency much deeper than we do....you can lose a hand for stealing in soem thrid-world countries over there.....

I NO, I'M TAKING UP FOR THE SHIEKS AND NO THEY DON'T PAY ME A DIME..I WISH THEY DID BECAUSE I WOULD BE MUCH RICHER...
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Old 08-26-2006, 03:11 PM
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I hardly believe taht they would plot a conspiracy from the top to do something like that...hell, they don't have to....they are sporting type people with nothing to prove and they are really strict on their morals and i just can't see that, but whatever...that is just my feeling....just because those horses had tranqs in theior system doesn't mean that it was a conspiarcy from the top dog himself to cheat and win...i just can't see that as their style...i can't....they believe in respect in decency much deeper than we do....you can lose a hand for stealing in soem thrid-world countries over there.....

I NO, I'M TAKING UP FOR THE SHIEKS AND NO THEY DON'T PAY ME A DIME..I WISH THEY DID BECAUSE I WOULD BE MUCH RICHER...
I don't think that Ian Jory necessarily accused the actual connections of Discreet Cat of doing it, but the fact is that both of his horses were compromised by receiving drugs that he didn't administer, and he had no knowledge of it.

Gold For Sale and Simpatico Bribon raced with tranquilizers in their systems. And their performances showed it...

I believe that both of them were undefeated up to that point, and Gold For Sale looked unbeatable in his prep for the UAE Derby. Similar to how Discreet Cat looked in his prep.
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Old 08-25-2006, 08:46 PM
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And the field he beat wasnt all that bad. Joel, any thoughts on when he is racing again? Is it the Jerome?
Yep, the Jerome it is....he wins there and they said probably no Breeders' Cup, which I can't really blame them for....they think they have the race won already with Bernardini and Invasor and I think they're right....

Anything could happen though between now and then, obviously, especially with injuries, etc.

If I could wager on where he runs after the Jerome i would bet almost anything that he stretches out to 1 1/8-miles against older horses again in the Grade I Clark at CD in late November...just an educated guess because you figure he'll be there training at CD and pre-enterered in the BC Classic on the precaution that Bernardini goes down - so he would be there and ready for the Clark later that month.....just guessing though... know one thing...my buddy Doug Bredar would be pleased if it were true...
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Old 08-25-2006, 08:51 PM
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Yep, the Jerome it is....he wins there and they said probably no Breeders' Cup, which I can't really blame them for....they think they have the race won already with Bernardini and Invasor and I think they're right....

Anything could happen though between now and then, obviously, especially with injuries, etc.

If I could wager on where he runs after the Jerome i would bet almost anything that he stretches out to 1 1/8-miles against older horses again in the Grade I Clark at CD in late November...just an educated guess because you figure he'll be there training at CD and pre-enterered in the BC Classic on the precaution that Bernardini goes down - so he would be there and ready for the Clark later that month.....just guessing though... know one thing...my buddy Doug Bredar would be pleased if it were true...

If they don't take him out of NY, 2nd choice Cigar Mile?
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Old 08-25-2006, 08:57 PM
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"The best I've ever ridden."

Come on now...those words should only be said in a whisper to the ear of a lovely lady that's sharing a pillow.
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Old 08-25-2006, 09:04 PM
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If they don't take him out of NY, 2nd choice Cigar Mile?
Last year they wanted to get a graded win for Sundrop before she retired, so they ran her at Churchill after the Breeders' Cup and she crushed a nice field at 7-1. One thing is for sure, they only send them out when they are ready. It's not like they need the money.

With the explosure that ESPN will provide for horse racing, it will definitely only help the popularity of the sport. During the halftime of one of their NFL games they will carry the Meadowlands Cup on ESPN2. The sport needed a shot in the arm like the UAE Shiek runners.
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