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Old 08-25-2006, 02:12 PM
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Best horse is running tomorrow - it will be fun to see. However, Secretariat and Slew? They need to calm down - neither colt is anywhere close to that yet.
How do u know they aren't close to that yet? They could be better already. They just don't have the same accomplishments obviously but who's to say they don't have more talent? I will grant u that it's unlikely they are as good as Secretariat or Slew but not impossible. I'm sure after Secretariat and Slew's first races, if anyone had said they were in the class of Man O' War or Citation, people would have said it's too early to say that but look how it ended up. Great horses are great horses from the start. If, at the end of his career, Discreet Cat shows he deserves to be mentioned with the all-time greats, then the talent is there now.
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Old 08-25-2006, 02:22 PM
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I'm sure after Secretariat and Slew's first races, if anyone had said they were in the class of Man O' War or Citation, people would have said it's too early to say that but look how it ended up.
King ...

Go to the "Charles Hatton Reading Room" and read my anecdote about him ... you'll be amazed.

And Seattle Slew ... like Ruffian ... was considered to be a wonder horse ... or potentially one ... right after his first start.

And ... of course ... I spotted Bernardini's abundant talent while watching him break his maiden. You surely remember that from the "other" forum.
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Old 08-25-2006, 02:30 PM
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Oh man! If only those two horses were facing off tomorrow in the Travers, that would be the race of the year, man how good are Bernardini and Discreet Cat, the great thing about the Sheiks owning them instead of those greedy Coolmore guys, is they actually LOVE to race their horses, it could be a great rivalry next year as well!!!!!
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Old 08-25-2006, 03:13 PM
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Oh man! If only those two horses were facing off tomorrow in the Travers, that would be the race of the year, man how good are Bernardini and Discreet Cat, the great thing about the Sheiks owning them instead of those greedy Coolmore guys, is they actually LOVE to race their horses, it could be a great rivalry next year as well!!!!!
But ... the last great horse they had ... Lammtarra ...

... raced only three times as a 3YO ... then was retired.

I don't see the sheiks being such great "sportsmen."
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Old 08-25-2006, 06:31 PM
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Oh man! If only those two horses were facing off tomorrow in the Travers, that would be the race of the year, man how good are Bernardini and Discreet Cat, the great thing about the Sheiks owning them instead of those greedy Coolmore guys, is they actually LOVE to race their horses, it could be a great rivalry next year as well!!!!!
I hope the Sheikh runs Bernardini next year and doesn't ship him off to stud before we really know his true potential. I thought for sure a month or so ago that it would be a sure thing, but now I'm getting nervous that the Sheikh Mohammed may count on DC next year so that he can make Bernardini the top man at Darley/Jonabell.
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Old 08-25-2006, 02:30 PM
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King ...

Go to the "Charles Hatton Reading Room" and read my anecdote about him ... you'll be amazed.

And Seattle Slew ... like Ruffian ... was considered to be a wonder horse ... or potentially one ... right after his first start.

And ... of course ... I spotted Bernardini's abundant talent while watching him break his maiden. You surely remember that from the "other" forum.
Yes, I remember that. And I have read that some people thought wonderous things about Sec after his first start. But they were still in the minority. I mean the majority of people would have said it was too early to compare him to the all-time greats. I don't think it's crazy after one or two starts, even less so after four or five, to say u think a horse has all-time talents. Either it's there or it's not. It doesn't take 20 starts to develop it.
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Old 08-25-2006, 03:10 PM
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If you are trying to find something to knock this horse, there is only one posibility and that is durability with his light schedule. This cud be a good thing tho. They didnt ruin him prepping for the TC.
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