The Answer to the Pistons

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

This is NOT a pistons blunder.

Dumars gets little credit for the wonderful job that he has done with the pistons. The job he did building that championship team was amongst the finest in NBA history.

By ANOTHER...I meant ...well now I forgot.

Let me check back and then I will finish.


ANN.












OK..I didn't say another.




I see what I meant. The fact he also got a point guard who is much less the defender than the one traded away...on a team built on defense......makes it all that much more a blunder.

I made no comment as to his past team building.



This is so like you,ANN.

[Mortimer]

Ann is getting her pus.sy SSSSSSSSSSSSSO HOT!! before she responds to me.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

By ANOTHER...I meant ...well now I forgot.

Let me check back and then I will finish.


ANN.












OK..I didn't say another.




I see what I meant. The fact he also got a point guard who is much less the defender than the one traded away...on a team built on defense......makes it all that much more a blunder.

I made no comment as to his past team building.



This is so like you,ANN.

You're missing the point though Mortimer. What the Pistons got back in the trade is largely immaterial in regards to the grand scheme. The point of the trade was NOT to win a championship this year and NOT to win a championship with Iverson...ever. He was traded for his expiring contract and to get rid of the bad contract of billups which still has four years left on it.

Now... if they somehow happen to gel and they are in contention (highly, highly unlikely) then this trade becomes that much more wonderful. But if not, they are in great position with the cap and they continued rebuilding without getting absolutely awful.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

You're missing the point though Mortimer. What the Pistons got back in the trade is largely immaterial in regards to the grand scheme. The point of the trade was NOT to win a championship this year and NOT to win a championship with Iverson...ever. He was traded for his expiring contract and to get rid of the bad contract of billups which still has four years left on it.

Now... if they somehow happen to gel and they are in contention (highly, highly unlikely) then this trade becomes that much more wonderful. But if not, they are in great position with the cap and they continued rebuilding without getting absolutely awful.

Oh but I didn't. I don't know what Dumars is thinking,but I did say that he just played the team down 2 notches this year with this trade.

I also said taking a step backward to go 2 forward is not a bad idea.Whether they do that or not is still in question,but this trade insures the Pistons will not do as well as last year.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Oh but I didn't. I don't know what Dumars is thinking,but I did say that he just played the team down 2 notches this year with this trade.

I also said taking a step backward to go 2 forward is not a bad idea.Whether they do that or not is still in question,but this trade insures the Pistons will not do as well as last year.

I think that was ensured with or without this trade. This was an aging team ripe for serious regression.

Yes, they locked up Hamilton today which was smart. No free agent would come without at least a semblance of a nucleus in place. They are building around stuckey, hamilton and prince in the short run and their pitch to a free agent would be that he could come in and be an instant superstar on a winning team.

[Mortimer]

They will fail to do so this season....and I believe nothing guarantees their future.

All they have done is make it possible to get the right players...now they have to do that.A lot harder to do.

There's no brilliance involved here that I can see. In fact..this year could well be a disaster.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

They will fail to do so this season....and I believe nothing guarantees their future.

All they have done is make it possible to get the right players...now they have to do that.A lot harder to do.

There's no brilliance involved here that I can see. In fact..this year could well be a disaster.

The brilliance is finding a team that will give you an expiring contract of 20 million dollars for two players that are approaching mid thirties and locked up for years to come.

On top of that, the expiring 20 million dollar contract is for a guy that can actually still play a little and is still popular among some fans.

Difficult to accomplish both.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The brilliance is finding a team that will give you an expiring contract of 20 million dollars for two players that are approaching mid thirties and locked up for years to come.

On top of that, the expiring 20 million dollar contract is for a guy that can actually still play a little and is still popular among some fans.

Difficult to accomplish both.

BRILLIANCE??



I still don't see that.

The Cavs unloaded a whole lot more baggage than that when they sent Kemp off to the Northwest and no one was calling ,I forgot his name, the GM brilliant then.

The other team stupid,maybe.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I think that was ensured with or without this trade. This was an aging team ripe for serious regression.

Yes, they locked up Hamilton today which was smart. No free agent would come without at least a semblance of a nucleus in place. They are building around stuckey, hamilton and prince in the short run and their pitch to a free agent would be that he could come in and be an instant superstar on a winning team.

Not true at all....I don't see why they could not have at least equaled last year.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Not true at all....I don't see why they could not have at least equaled last year.

Because mort, they are a year older with no significant free agent acquisitions with a switch to a coach that has never coached.

Many of the other contenders improved.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Because mort, they are a year older with no significant free agent acquisitions with a switch to a coach that has never coached.

Many of the other contenders improved.

That is conjecture ; mine holds up just as well as yours.



One thing is for sure; they step back this year.

For sure.