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Old 08-25-2006, 01:41 PM
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The most impressive part ...

... was the final furlong in :12.1 ... effortlessly.

If he can carry that speed around two turns against quality opposition ... and his bloodlines say he should ... there's no limit to his potential.
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Old 08-25-2006, 01:46 PM
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The most impressive part ...

... was the final furlong in :12.1 ... effortlessly.

If he can carry that speed around two turns against quality opposition ... and his bloodlines say he should ... there's no limit to his potential.
I don't know BB..Not too many Forestry's can get the 10 furlongs.
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Old 08-25-2006, 01:49 PM
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I don't know BB..Not too many Forestry's can get the 10 furlongs.
Look at the rest of his pedigree ...

... Pleasant Colony, Damascus, Dr. Fager, Buckpasser, Private Account, In Reality, Tom Rolfe ...

... some of them could run pretty well around two turns.


P.S. Not to mention Northern Dancer ... Sword Dancer ... and Secretariat.
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Old 08-25-2006, 01:51 PM
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Good time to remember this quote from Invasor's trainer after the Suburban:

"He was most impressive," McLaughlin said of Invasor's performance on Saturday. "I was impressed last time and surprised, but today I was even more impressed. He's the real deal. I don't know how I got him beat, but maybe I should say we don't want to see Discreet Cat anywhere."
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Old 08-25-2006, 01:58 PM
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Good time to remember this quote from Invasor's trainer after the Suburban:

"He was most impressive," McLaughlin said of Invasor's performance on Saturday. "I was impressed last time and surprised, but today I was even more impressed. He's the real deal. I don't know how I got him beat, but maybe I should say we don't want to see Discreet Cat anywhere."
King ... after this year ...

... you may have to revise your Top Five ... or cut it off as of 2005.
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Old 08-25-2006, 02:00 PM
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King ... after this year ...

... you may have to revise your Top Five ... or cut it off as of 2005.
Between Discreet Cat and Bernardini, I wouldn't be surprised if u are right. They look as good as a horse can look so far.
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Old 08-25-2006, 02:05 PM
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This makes me even more excited about tomorrow - DC did his thing and I know Bernardini will do his thing tomorrow. I guess the Sheikh's have no choice but to run their colts against each other, no matter how hard they try to avoid it.
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Old 08-25-2006, 02:27 PM
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Looks like no Breeders' Cup this year...they know Bernardini has that in the bag...here are post race quotes from the assistant trainer:


"I doubt you’ll see him in the Breeders’ Cup [Saturday, November 4, Churchill Downs] this year; first things first. We’ll go in the Jerome and see how he comes out. He won easier than I thought he would. It’s a weight off our shoulders to get him back. ”


I would bet almost anything that he runs in the Clark (G1) in late November at CD if he exites the Jerome in good order....we'll see i guess...
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Old 08-25-2006, 03:19 PM
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I would take Bernardini over him right now but with another race or two in him I could see him winning the BC Classic. I really doubt he could get there though off just the Jerome. I get the feeling they are pointing him toward the race in Dubai.
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Old 08-25-2006, 03:44 PM
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I would take Bernardini over him right now but with another race or two in him I could see him winning the BC Classic. I really doubt he could get there though off just the Jerome. I get the feeling they are pointing him toward the race in Dubai.
It seems kind of nutty for them to be pointing to Dubai ... since they're the ones who put up the purse money there.

How smart is it to race for the same money that you stole?

Hey ... but they stole it fair and square .. so I guess they can do whatever they want with it.
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Old 08-25-2006, 01:54 PM
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Discreet Cat's eight great-great grandfathers ...

... Northern Dancer ... Secretariat ... His Majesty ... Dr. Fager ... Sword Dancer ... Buckpasser ... In Reality ... Tom Rolfe.

Says "two-turns" to me.
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Old 08-25-2006, 02:05 PM
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Discreet Cat's eight great-great grandfathers ...

... Northern Dancer ... Secretariat ... His Majesty ... Dr. Fager ... Sword Dancer ... Buckpasser ... In Reality ... Tom Rolfe.

Says "two-turns" to me.
Everyone of those guys certainly do..
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Old 08-25-2006, 01:49 PM
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The most impressive part ...

... was the final furlong in :12.1 ... effortlessly.

If he can carry that speed around two turns against quality opposition ... and his bloodlines say he should ... there's no limit to his potential.
He already has...against Invasor, unless you don't think he is quality opposition.
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Old 08-25-2006, 01:51 PM
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He already has...against Invasor, unless you don't think he is quality opposition.
Yes, he won easily at 1 1/8 miles in the UAE Derby. We know he can get 9 furlongs. The only question is whether he can get 10 furlongs.
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Old 08-25-2006, 01:56 PM
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He already has...against Invasor, unless you don't think he is quality opposition.
I forgot he was in that race ... thanks.
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Old 08-25-2006, 07:06 PM
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He already has...against Invasor, unless you don't think he is quality opposition.
No way. Dubai Derby is a 9f around one turn.
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Old 08-25-2006, 07:09 PM
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the uae derby is 10f
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Old 08-25-2006, 07:48 PM
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the uae derby is 10f
Ann's right, they shortened it up this year.
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Old 08-25-2006, 07:53 PM
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yeah, i posted my 'eureka' in another thread...missed the change...and found my error.
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