Midnight Lute Retired

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Real Quiet was never the darling of the Bluegrass in the first place; he wasn't big and impressive enough. He was the tall, slender, lean distance runner (think Frank Shorter, Olympic marathoner) rather than the big-framed, muscle-bound bruiser that is in fashion these days. He never won a sprint, and didn't win a stakes at less than 1 3/16 after his 2yo year. His first couple of crops didn't have any impressive 2yos in them, so off to PA for him.

Damsire Dehere was champion 2yo but didn't train on after Florida at 3; by Deputy Minister from a Secretariat mare, not a standout sire. There is quality back in the female family - second dam a distance G3 turf SW, half-sister to a G2 Irish SW at 10f, who was second in the Irish Oaks; third dam was a listed SW in Italy who was a full sister to Gyr, who was a 12 G1 winner in France (and was second to Nijinsky in the Derby). When you look at it closely, Midnight Lute was bred to be a stayer.

Midnight Lute's well-chronicled soundness problems - of wind and limb - ought to make breeders very wary of using him. His size, which so impresses many people, is one of the things can contribute to limb unsoundness, because skinny TB legs can't take the impact of that much weight on them for long without injury.

Commerically, he doesn't look as desirable as some others in the field, like Street Boss (Street Cry is Hot, Hot, Hot!).

it should, but I seriously doubt it does.

FWIW Candytuft (midnight Lutes dam) is a very correct mare, slightly above average size with good bone. It's one of the reasons that they took a risk in sending her to Real Quiet--since breeders were warned not to send anything to him that wasn't pretty well made.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

it should, but I seriously doubt it does.

FWIW Candytuft (midnight Lutes dam) is a very correct mare, slightly above average size with good bone. It's one of the reasons that they took a risk in sending her to Real Quiet--since breeders were warned not to send anything to him that wasn't pretty well made.

I would breed to Mid Night Lute without a seconds thought. He is a monster and a dam good looking horse beside being fast as sheat. I also think that horses that overcome and run thru there issues have a level of toughness that could be beneficial.

Also Real Quiet is a fairly good broody stallion.... If he was 10k I would suggest our small filly would be an OK match.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I would breed to Mid Night Lute without a seconds thought. He is a monster and a dam good looking horse beside being fast as sheat. I also think that horses that overcome and run thru there issues have a level of toughness that could be beneficial.

Also Real Quiet is a fairly good broody stallion.... If he was 10k I would suggest our small filly would be an OK match.

Horses that overcome are usually the worst stallions.

[freddymo]

[quote=Cannon Shell]Horses that overcome are usually the worst stallions.[/QUO

I guess you thing Ghostzapper will be a bust

[Cannon Shell]

[quote=freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Horses that overcome are usually the worst stallions.[/QUO

I guess you thing Ghostzapper will be a bust

He didnt overcome

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Horses that overcome are usually the worst stallions.

Candy Ride had his problems, his has been pretty live. Perhaps more than anything he and Lute are most simular in they ran sporadically but when they ran healthy they put up numbers that you don't often see. 120+ beyers.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by CSC

Candy Ride had his problems, his has been pretty live. Perhaps more than anything he and Lute are most simular in they ran sporadically but when they ran healthy they put up numbers that you don't often see. 120+ beyers.

Not quite the same. Candy Ride, as an first-half half of the year 3yo in Argentina, Sept. to Dec., won his maiden, stepped up to a G1 vs other 3yos, the Clasico San Isidro, winning by 8, then stepped up again to run in the big international mile race in the Carlos Pellegrini meeting against his elders and beat them by 8. (This is roughly equivalent to a 3yo winning the Met Mile.) This caught the eye of overseas buyers and the colt was sold to North America. He was given 6 months to acclimatize and came back in mid-2003, when he won an allowance race, the American H (G2) and the Pacific Classic (G1). Only THEN was his career interrupted by physical problems. The earlier gap was due to the change of hemispheres.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I would breed to Mid Night Lute without a seconds thought. He is a monster and a dam good looking horse beside being fast as sheat. I also think that horses that overcome and run thru there issues have a level of toughness that could be beneficial.

Also Real Quiet is a fairly good broody stallion.... If he was 10k I would suggest our small filly would be an OK match.

Who would have knew Tapit would be the leading freshman sire for 08?