Oden out again?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I cant help myself.
You need to be seen for who you are.

You are telling me when Lebron was drafted, before he played
a pro game. He was called a once in a lifetime player?
By the people who saw him in HS yes.

But to say the consensus was Lebron was a once in a lifetime player
is complete BS. And you know this if you really kept up when Lebron was
drafted #1. It is easy to say now. But when you forget what was....
Selective memory.

The "consensus" did see him play in high school. ESPN was televising a couple of his regular season games which was a first for a high school athlete.

There was no question. Sports illustrated did a huge piece on him when he was a JUNIOR in high school.

LOL. you are so clueless im laughing at you.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The "consensus" did see him play in high school. ESPN was televising a couple of his regular season games which was a first for a high school athlete.

There was no question. Sports illustrated did a huge piece on him when he was a JUNIOR in high school.

LOL. you are so clueless im laughing at you.

Sport ILLUSTRATED.
A great source for success in the future.
Please stop reading magazines and watch the damn games.

THere were plenty of doubters that he was coming out way to
early and that he would be eaten up by the pro game. Seriously,
you have to know this.

[Mortimer]

Mr. Garden...he was touted that way..as a once in a lifetime guy. It it is my recollection there was no doubt he would be the first guy taken no matter who got that pick.

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Mr. Garden...he was touted that way..as a once in a lifetime guy. It it is my recollection there was no doubt he would be the first guy taken no matter who got that pick.

You are correct.
There was not doubt he would be the first pick.
The question was how good a player would he become,
especially since his first year was right out of HS.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by pgardn

You are correct.
There was not doubt he would be the first pick.
The question was how good a player would he become,
especially since his first year was right out of HS.

Oh.





You have defeated me.

I quit.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Sport ILLUSTRATED.
A great source for success in the future.
Please stop reading magazines and watch the damn games.

THere were plenty of doubters that he was coming out way to
early and that he would be eaten up by the pro game. Seriously,
you have to know this.

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL You are a joke

You said the "consensus" now you are changing it to "plenty of doubters".

Who exactly were these "plenty of doubters" and where can i read their work?

Do you have links to these "plenty of doubters"?

Im sure there were some morons (like yourself) that thought that he wouldnt make it. Most knew he would.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Im sure there were some morons (like yourself) that thought that he wouldnt make it. Most knew he would.

Yes. 3 years down the line it really gets easy.
Great job. Quit playing your silly games.
You did it before. It does not work.

The fact is there were many people that thought it would
be very tough on Lebron. I did not take a Gallop poll. But I guess
your Sports Illustrated issue did.

Go three years back on any public board or articles on Lebron
where professional scouts were interviewed. Links... Oh yes your links.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Yes. 3 years down the line it really gets easy.
Great job. Quit playing your silly games.
You did it before. It does not work.

The fact is there were many people that thought it would
be very tough on Lebron. I did not take a Gallop poll. But I guess
your Sports Illustrated issue did.

Go three years back on any public board or articles on Lebron
where professional scouts were interviewed. Links... Oh yes your links.

Can you provide a link to any of what you are claiming phil?

here is a link backing up what i am saying:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in555131.shtml

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Can you provide a link to any of what you are claiming phil?

here is a link backing up what i am saying:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in555131.shtml

So you are saying all the kids would want Lebrons and Carmellos shoes.
Good article and right to the point.
Are you kidding with this?
Is this some sort of joke?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

So you are saying all the kids would want Lebrons and Carmellos shoes.
Good article and right to the point.
Are you kidding with this?
Is this some sort of joke?

Do you have links to these "message boards" and "articles interviewing scouts" or am i just going to have to take your little word for it?

[King Glorious]

LeBron was on the cover of Sports Illustrated in the 7th or 8th grade. He would have been the #1 pick in the draft after his junior year in high school and may have gone top 10 after just his sophomore year. Everyone knew how good this kid was. LeBron had been playing against pro players well before he was drafted. Not in any official settings but he had played with them many times before. I remember being skeptical about him too for a long time before I heard Michael Jordan say that LeBron was the real deal. This was before he was drafted. It was no secret that LeBron James was going to be a superstar and that he was a once in a generation type of player.

Greg Oden cannot be judged properly now. The obvious comparisons are to guys like Ewing and Mutombo because of their size and because defense is where their biggest contributions are likely to be made. Oden doesn't appear to have much of an offensive game at the moment. But it will improve. I can't imagine how much pressure he must have felt when he hit the court for that opening night game. Sure, there are pressures for every top pick to perform but he had another year to let them build up and he's playing for a team that a lot of people want to pencil in as contenders for the Western Conference title. Add to that the mental hesitation that comes with coming off of an injury and it's easy to see how the results were what they were in that first game. Obviously health is going to be his biggest concern. If he can remain healthy though, I don't think it's hard to envision him as a guy that can give Portland 10-15 a night and 10+ boards a night and for him to be a serious presence on defense. Those aren't overwhelming numbers but they aren't bad either. I don't know if the comparison to Bynum is fair at all. Personally, I think I'd take Bynum over any center in the league right now, save for maybe Dwight Howard. But that's because we got a chance to see glimpses of what Bynum could do. I think that if you take away what we've seen of Bynum and go back to what Bynum had shown at this same point in his NBA development, nobody would say Bynum was the better one.