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Old 10-26-2008, 10:21 AM
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Pro ride played as predicted.

No kick back.

The hotter the surface gets the more it favors horses from off the pace.

Santa Anita is a showplace deserving of the Breeders Cup.
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:32 AM
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Get rid of the blessed purple saddle cloths before military action does it for them next year....
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:42 AM
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Bet Asmussen is wishing he had gone with his first mind and not brought Curlin out here for this. Couldn't even beat Tiago. He'd still get my vote but I'm sure a lot of voters will be swayed or come close to it as far as him vs. Zenyatta for HOY.

I've said for 20 years that the QE II Stakes at Ascot is a better prep for the Classic than for the BC Mile.

Midnight Lute is something.

Zarkava is REALLY something.

Anyone that still wants to debate that these junk tracks play favorably for grass horses, I hereby enter into evidence exhibit A, the BC Classic.

I wish Zenyatta had been in the Classic.

American trainers should have to be sent to Europe to do one year of studying. Maybe then, we could see more fillies do what Goldikova did, what Zarkava did, and what Zenyatta could have done this year......take on and beat the boys.

The temperature was over 90 degrees and the Euro's dominated the day. It was 100 last time at SA and they were very successful then too. I'd hope that one day, this silly notion that the warm temps of Southern California put them at a disadvantage. Probably won't though. I think it's as ingrained in the minds of players as the silly thoughts about Pimlico.

How about that Baffert guy.
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:49 AM
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Bet Asmussen is wishing he had gone with his first mind and not brought Curlin out here for this. Couldn't even beat Tiago. He'd still get my vote but I'm sure a lot of voters will be swayed or come close to it as far as him vs. Zenyatta for HOY.

I've said for 20 years that the QE II Stakes at Ascot is a better prep for the Classic than for the BC Mile.

Midnight Lute is something.

Zarkava is REALLY something.

Anyone that still wants to debate that these junk tracks play favorably for grass horses, I hereby enter into evidence exhibit A, the BC Classic.

I wish Zenyatta had been in the Classic.

American trainers should have to be sent to Europe to do one year of studying. Maybe then, we could see more fillies do what Goldikova did, what Zarkava did, and what Zenyatta could have done this year......take on and beat the boys.

The temperature was over 90 degrees and the Euro's dominated the day. It was 100 last time at SA and they were very successful then too. I'd hope that one day, this silly notion that the warm temps of Southern California put them at a disadvantage. Probably won't though. I think it's as ingrained in the minds of players as the silly thoughts about Pimlico.

How about that Baffert guy.

With the honourable exception of Giant's Causeway (who was a well-beaten second at Ascot) when before has the QEII figured in the Breeders' Cup Classic shake down?
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Old 10-26-2008, 02:31 PM
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With the honourable exception of Giant's Causeway (who was a well-beaten second at Ascot) when before has the QEII figured in the Breeders' Cup Classic shake down?
That's my point. Before, it was always the Mile that they would send their QE II winners over for. And with horrible results:

Shadeed, Milligram, Warning, Zilzal, Markofdistinction, Bigstone, Mark of Esteem, Desert Prince, and Air Express (?) all came over here and lost. There were three losers from that race that came over and won the Mile (Miesque, Ridgewood Pearl, and Barathea) while Excellent Art was a very close second. Why does this happen? Because those horses are true milers and they usually lack the stamina that it takes to win the QE II, even though that race is run at a mile. So look at what's been happening since 2000. First, Giant's Causeway comes over and very nearly wins the Classic. He was arguable better at longer distances than at a mile. Falbrav won the race and lost by less than a length in the BC Turf and he was arguably better at longer distances than a mile. Same with Ratki. Then you have these two this year.

My point is that even though they haven't historically used it that way, I've always felt that horses that do well in the QE II, especially winners, would have fared better if given a shot in the Classic because usually, they don't have the quickness required for an American run mile but they do have the stamina for American 10f races.

I guarantee you that if next year's QE II winner comes over for the BC, it will be for the Classic and not the Mile.
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:15 AM
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Pro ride played as predicted.

No kick back.

The hotter the surface gets the more it favors horses from off the pace.

Santa Anita is a showplace deserving of the Breeders Cup.
I agree completely, its obvious the heat plays into the surface. What I think they should do, and am surprised they dont look at historical trends but it seems like Nov 1st is a date that brings a real change in the weather, if they would push this back a week they would likely get low 80's temps and the track would tighten up a little bit.
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they are next year
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:29 AM
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Looking forward to 2010
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:43 AM
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The racing was great. No problems with the surface. The best horses of the day won. Nothing more exciting than seeing several good horses in it with an eight to go. I even won a little. Nicest BC in a long time. What a gorgeous facility. Can't wait for next year. So nice I'm considering flying out next year to be there in person.

They need to lose the purple saddle cloths. Please. Even gold saddlecloths with purple letters would possibly work better!
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:52 AM
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The racing was great. No problems with the surface. The best horses of the day won. Nothing more exciting than seeing several good horses in it with an eight to go. I even won a little. Nicest BC in a long time. What a gorgeous facility. Can't wait for next year. So nice I'm considering flying out next year to be there in person.

They need to lose the purple saddle cloths. Please. Even gold saddlecloths with purple letters would possibly work better!
The mix of fans at Santa Anita were from all over the world and the US. I really enjoyed the people I talked to on rail at the walking ring.

The track was really easy to get in and out of considering it was the Breeders Cup, You wont regret the trip.
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:47 AM
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I agree completely, its obvious the heat plays into the surface. What I think they should do, and am surprised they dont look at historical trends but it seems like Nov 1st is a date that brings a real change in the weather, if they would push this back a week they would likely get low 80's temps and the track would tighten up a little bit.
The weather was alittle hotter and dryer because of a Santa Ana condition and you are right 10 days from now it will be 10 to 15 degrees cooler.
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:51 AM
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and another thing...

Stardom Bound...how about that filly. Simply awesome and hope she races next year as if she improves, .......wow, she's unstopable.

Also, she put to rest that you can't make a big move on the synthetic. I wonder how she would run on dirt.
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Old 10-26-2008, 02:57 PM
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Nexy year it's Nov 6& 7
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Old 10-27-2008, 12:33 PM
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Nexy year it's Nov 6& 7

It's time to pass a law making purple sadddle cloths illegal on those days in California!!
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