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Old 10-26-2008, 09:14 AM
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next time they go to santa anita I will throw out all east coast based horses and then start handicapping from there
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:48 AM
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next time they go to santa anita I will throw out all east coast based horses and then start handicapping from there
don't forget to throw out all the euros too.
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:01 AM
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next time they go to santa anita I will throw out all east coast based horses and then start handicapping from there
You'd do better throwing out the front-end speed burners in all the sprints. I thought possibly that a really fast-breaking horse could speed-pop the field and keep on, but Dearest Trickski's fate cured me of that real fast.
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:07 AM
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As my head hit the pillow last night(a happy man), one thought for some reason or another had me scratching it.

How in the HELL did Red Rock Canyon finish 6th and not dead last in the Turf? Better Talk Now ran a disgrace of a race if he wasnt able to outfinish that horse.
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:12 AM
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1st) the jockeys on Grand Couturier and Better Talk Now should get bans for ill-judged rides.

2nd) didn't Raven's Pass make the exact same move as Curlin?
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:21 AM
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Pro ride played as predicted.

No kick back.

The hotter the surface gets the more it favors horses from off the pace.

Santa Anita is a showplace deserving of the Breeders Cup.
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:32 AM
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Get rid of the blessed purple saddle cloths before military action does it for them next year....
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:42 AM
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Bet Asmussen is wishing he had gone with his first mind and not brought Curlin out here for this. Couldn't even beat Tiago. He'd still get my vote but I'm sure a lot of voters will be swayed or come close to it as far as him vs. Zenyatta for HOY.

I've said for 20 years that the QE II Stakes at Ascot is a better prep for the Classic than for the BC Mile.

Midnight Lute is something.

Zarkava is REALLY something.

Anyone that still wants to debate that these junk tracks play favorably for grass horses, I hereby enter into evidence exhibit A, the BC Classic.

I wish Zenyatta had been in the Classic.

American trainers should have to be sent to Europe to do one year of studying. Maybe then, we could see more fillies do what Goldikova did, what Zarkava did, and what Zenyatta could have done this year......take on and beat the boys.

The temperature was over 90 degrees and the Euro's dominated the day. It was 100 last time at SA and they were very successful then too. I'd hope that one day, this silly notion that the warm temps of Southern California put them at a disadvantage. Probably won't though. I think it's as ingrained in the minds of players as the silly thoughts about Pimlico.

How about that Baffert guy.
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:49 AM
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Bet Asmussen is wishing he had gone with his first mind and not brought Curlin out here for this. Couldn't even beat Tiago. He'd still get my vote but I'm sure a lot of voters will be swayed or come close to it as far as him vs. Zenyatta for HOY.

I've said for 20 years that the QE II Stakes at Ascot is a better prep for the Classic than for the BC Mile.

Midnight Lute is something.

Zarkava is REALLY something.

Anyone that still wants to debate that these junk tracks play favorably for grass horses, I hereby enter into evidence exhibit A, the BC Classic.

I wish Zenyatta had been in the Classic.

American trainers should have to be sent to Europe to do one year of studying. Maybe then, we could see more fillies do what Goldikova did, what Zarkava did, and what Zenyatta could have done this year......take on and beat the boys.

The temperature was over 90 degrees and the Euro's dominated the day. It was 100 last time at SA and they were very successful then too. I'd hope that one day, this silly notion that the warm temps of Southern California put them at a disadvantage. Probably won't though. I think it's as ingrained in the minds of players as the silly thoughts about Pimlico.

How about that Baffert guy.

With the honourable exception of Giant's Causeway (who was a well-beaten second at Ascot) when before has the QEII figured in the Breeders' Cup Classic shake down?
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:15 PM
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Pro ride played as predicted.

No kick back.

The hotter the surface gets the more it favors horses from off the pace.

Santa Anita is a showplace deserving of the Breeders Cup.
I agree completely, its obvious the heat plays into the surface. What I think they should do, and am surprised they dont look at historical trends but it seems like Nov 1st is a date that brings a real change in the weather, if they would push this back a week they would likely get low 80's temps and the track would tighten up a little bit.
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:25 PM
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they are next year
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:29 PM
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Looking forward to 2010
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:47 PM
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I agree completely, its obvious the heat plays into the surface. What I think they should do, and am surprised they dont look at historical trends but it seems like Nov 1st is a date that brings a real change in the weather, if they would push this back a week they would likely get low 80's temps and the track would tighten up a little bit.
The weather was alittle hotter and dryer because of a Santa Ana condition and you are right 10 days from now it will be 10 to 15 degrees cooler.
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:51 PM
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and another thing...

Stardom Bound...how about that filly. Simply awesome and hope she races next year as if she improves, .......wow, she's unstopable.

Also, she put to rest that you can't make a big move on the synthetic. I wonder how she would run on dirt.
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Old 10-26-2008, 03:57 PM
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Nexy year it's Nov 6& 7
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:36 AM
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As my head hit the pillow last night(a happy man), one thought for some reason or another had me scratching it.

How in the HELL did Red Rock Canyon finish 6th and not dead last in the Turf? Better Talk Now ran a disgrace of a race if he wasnt able to outfinish that horse.
BTN is like 27 years old, give him a break...
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:12 PM
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You'd do better throwing out the front-end speed burners in all the sprints. I thought possibly that a really fast-breaking horse could speed-pop the field and keep on, but Dearest Trickski's fate cured me of that real fast.
I am getting tired of ignorant, uninformed statements going unchallenged on this board.

Dearest Trickski may have been the worst bet in that race. Lets take a look at her wins this year.

In the La Brea she gets two lengths clear as the controlling pace, it was a moderate pace at best.

In the A Gleam she pops the gate and sets a pace 20 points slower then the final time, again she is never challenged on the lead until its to late.

In the Ranch Barnardo again she faces zero pace pressure and sets a very moderate pace and hangs on by a nose.

Now she has to deal with Dream Rush and Indian Blessing. While she did get clear it took crazy in sane fractions to do it, and she wilted as expected.

What should have been taken out of the race is that Indian Blessing was right there off that crazy pace and held a very good second, it was an exceptional effort.
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