Tips/Thoughts on Breeders' Cup tickets this year?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I'm just glad we all got to see M LUTE put it all together again. I knew they couldn't run with him if he stayed together (physically)during the race. That's the most talented horse Baffert has ever trained.

2nd most.

[letswastemoney]

Silver Charm says hi

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Silver Charm says hi

Hi Silver Charm!

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Hi Silver Charm!

He says Silver Charm was the toughest(an overachiever.)

[Indian Charlie]

Clearly Indian Charlie was his most gifted racehorse.

He was plagued by soundness and health issues, including being a wobbler.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Clearly Indian Charlie was his most gifted racehorse.

Clearly?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Clearly?

That he even raced was unlikely, being a wobbler.

His four wins were as awesome and overpowering as you'll likely see, and despite bowing a tendon in the derby, was actually gaining on the two horses that had passed him near the end of the race.

Wobblers, btw, are usually not raced, though I'm guessing they probably didn't know he was a wobbler until he was a stallion. Nonetheless, running like he did with a neurological condition is pretty amazing.

It's too bad noone has put up any of his wins on youtube. The way he made Old Trieste spit out the bit in his first two turn race was quite impressive.

Also, for a horse that has a remarkably unfashionable pedigree, he's managed to do quite nicely for himself (his owners more like!) at stud. Just a few years ago he was a 10k stallion and now he's up to 75k. As far as I know, there is only one stallion that had been trained by baffert that stands for more, and rest aren't close.

Usually a brilliant horse with a sketchy pedigree is going to be a flop at stud (skip away, gentlemen, formal gold, etc.), but I thought he was a can't miss.

I'm sure someone will point out that stud success has nothing to do with racing success, but I have to disagree in this type of instance. It's exceedingly rare for a 'poorly' bred racehorse who was just an okay racehorse to ever do anything at stud, let alone move their mares way way up.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

2nd most.

I am just agreeing with what Baffert already said. Obviously, the horse has had a lot of problems, but when he runs his A race, you don't have to worry about getting beat by a better horse.

[10 pnt move up]

The only reason Midnight Lute won is because it was synthetic and he is a turf horse. Well at least thats what I am gathering reading all these threads about the non turf races and the winners.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

The only reason Midnight Lute won is because it was synthetic and he is a turf horse. Well at least thats what I am gathering reading all these threads about the non turf races and the winners.

Baffert said he'll run on anything. He is very big, and bothered by many starting gates(Del Mar etc.)