Tips/Thoughts on Breeders' Cup tickets this year?

Danzig · #1 10-25-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

I have no feelings for or against Curlin, but I didn't understand Randy Moss' comment that the Classic in NO WAY (I capitalized this because that's how strongly he said it) diminishes his reputation. Now this I dispute. It's not fair to say that had he won, Curlin would have been the best horse in the last 25 years (I wonder who decided that, by the way) because, presumably, he'd have overcome an unfamilar surface and tough Euro challengers, yet in the same breath say that the loss has no effect on his standing in racing history. You can't have it both ways. I don't think Curlin's reputation as a very good horse was diminished, but his historical reputation as a great horse was.

i think he meant it shouldn't diminish what he's accomplished up to today.

Betsy · #2 10-25-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i think he meant it shouldn't diminish what he's accomplished up to today.

Well, yes - that's absolutely true. ESPN was full of drama queens today, though. Was it William Nack doing those breathless profiles of various horses? Every time Curlin's name was mentioned, it was always followed by "possibly/probably best horse of the last 25 years". Annoying. Nonetheless, there's nothing to knock about this guy.

King Glorious · #3 10-26-2008, 12:29 AM

I had to listen to the races on mute cause I was sick of hearing that title. He's not even in the conversation and that was before he lost today. He's not even the best of this decade. Hell, he's not even the best of this year.

Danzig · #4 10-26-2008, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I had to listen to the races on mute cause I was sick of hearing that title. He's not even in the conversation and that was before he lost today. He's not even the best of this decade. Hell, he's not even the best of this year.

wow. you are GOOD!!

CSC · #5 10-26-2008, 09:16 AM

For what it's worth I feel no different about Curlin today as I did before the Classic. So much for hurting his legacy...

Danzig · #6 10-26-2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

For what it's worth I feel no different about Curlin today as I did before the Classic. So much for hurting his legacy...

funny you say that...neither do i.

geeker2 · #7 10-26-2008, 09:34 AM

On the track...Curlin looked like he would crush..he looked magnificent.

He made a great run around the turn and it looked like he would just keep going.

When he walked back after the race..people in the stands stood and applauded.

That was my view from Section M.

miraja2 · #8 10-26-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

For what it's worth I feel no different about Curlin today as I did before the Classic.

Nor should you. He is a very good dirt horse that wasn't running on the dirt.
On the turf and synthetic, he's just not as good.

When it comes to the dirt, he is/was a pretty good horse. As KG said, there is no way he is even the best horse of the decade, let alone the last 25 years, but that has very little to do with what happened yesterday.

Smooth Operator · #9 10-26-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I had to listen to the races on mute cause I was sick of hearing that title. He's not even in the conversation and that was before he lost today. He's not even the best of this decade. Hell, he's not even the best of this year.

Heck, you can even take it a step further, imo, KG. If SS and HS were not pharmacologically-enhanced with an anabolic steroid last year, you really can't say with any certainty that Curlie was even the best of his crop.

Curlie literally looked like the incredible hulk on four legs at Monmouth Park last October ... likely the result of a long 'roid regimen.

Cajungator26 · #10 10-26-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Heck, you can even take it a step further, imo, KG. If SS and HS were not pharmacologically-enhanced with an anabolic steroid last year, you really can't say with any certainty that Curlie was even the best of his crop.

Curlie literally looked like the incredible hulk on four legs at Monmouth Park last October ... likely the result of a long 'roid regimen.

Or it could be the fact that he's a large horse. I was at GP when he broke his maiden under trainer Helen Pitts ... believe me, he's a big horse.

The Bid · #11 10-26-2008, 01:30 PM

Ghostzapper should have been renamed Milkshake

Danzig · #12 10-26-2008, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

Well, yes - that's absolutely true. ESPN was full of drama queens today, though. Was it William Nack doing those breathless profiles of various horses? Every time Curlin's name was mentioned, it was always followed by "possibly/probably best horse of the last 25 years". Annoying. Nonetheless, there's nothing to knock about this guy.

it just seems like when they do a broadcast and gush about a particular horse, they curse him. it happened with war pass earlier this year. they went on and on (and on and on) about how good he looked, he was slew all over, yada yada...and then the horse finished last.
then you had big brown, on and on about how he was about to win the tc. oops.
and then curlin yesterday. i know they're probably thinking they're building excitement and tension. imo they're just building a headache between my temples.

now, had pacheco and goldberg got into a fight, that would have made the broadcast just great.

i still wonder tho....why the change in seating arrangements? did he bitch, or did she???