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Old 10-25-2008, 09:54 PM
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Apparently you do not watch much television.




The reason the NFL or college football are the most watched is because they are team sports, people enjoy team sports much more so than individual sports. People can relate to their team, their city, their roots, etc... this is the reason for the popularity, it has little to do with the quality of the broadcast team.

As far as assuming that no one has seen a horse race, I agree that the dumbing down to an audience can have a negative effect on your supporting hardcore audience, but THEY know YOU will watch regardless. BECAUSE YOU ARE HARDCORE!!
hardcore fans are the only ones watching. i doubt having people call males 'she', confusing trainers, and hyping horses as being some of the best evah will make people who don't care about racing suddenly decide to tune in, kurt russell or no kurt russell.
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hardcore fans are the only ones watching. i doubt having people call males 'she', confusing trainers, and hyping horses as being some of the best evah will make people who don't care about racing suddenly decide to tune in, kurt russell or no kurt russell.
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hardcore fans are the only ones watching. i doubt having people call males 'she', confusing trainers, and hyping horses as being some of the best evah will make people who don't care about racing suddenly decide to tune in, kurt russell or no kurt russell.
NO, the majority of hardcore fans were at tracks and OTB's across the country betting on the BC. So again, you are wrong.
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:57 PM
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NO, the majority of hardcore fans were at tracks and OTB's across the country betting on the BC. So again, you are wrong.
i'm hardcore, i was at home. otbs/tracks aren't exactly doable for a lot of people.
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:59 PM
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i'm hardcore, i was at home. otbs/tracks aren't exactly doable for a lot of people.
They are for most of the 'hardcore" fans I have ever met...

Maybe our definition of "hardcore" is different.
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:31 PM
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If showing up in person's the qualification, I guess Stacy Keibler is hardcore. Hardcore racing fan by day, soft-core reality show dance-porn personality by night. If she showed up at your average OTB, maybe you'd get an increase in the kind of fans that wager.
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i'm hardcore, i was at home. otbs/tracks aren't exactly doable for a lot of people.
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....it was a good day for me anyway.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:34 PM
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....it was a good day for me anyway.



i meant as a race fan, silly. but you knew that!
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:37 PM
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i meant as a race fan, silly. but you knew that!


....it was a good day!
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:42 PM
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....it was a good day!
i know it hoff, good for you!

but most importantly, they all went back to the barn safe and sound.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:36 PM
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NO, the majority of hardcore fans were at tracks and OTB's across the country betting on the BC. So again, you are wrong.
I beg to differ. Alot fo the hardcore ARE watching at home because between phone and internet you can play the races as easily from your couch as at a simulcast, and the beer is cheaper. In the early days of the Cup, you went to the Cup or watched on TV or at an OTB. Then more and more simulcast became available and you watchedat your local track. Then as ADW became available people realized that it was cheaper and fun to watch at home, maybe have friends over or watch and follow via blogs and bb's.
That said, the networks have not done a service to the horseplayers tha are watching.
The blimp shot is great for replaying the race but dreadful for the live action. I hate all the jumping around. (I was sure I was going to win with Westphalia until I realized I had 1/16 to go!) The dopey interviews to the exclusion of real time odds etc is insanity. Breaking for commercials with 90 seconds to post is infuriating. The networks need to at least now and then acknowledge that unlike baseball and football, in racing the betting is LEGAL and that the entire game is in fact funded by it!
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:41 PM
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I beg to differ. Alot fo the hardcore ARE watching at home because between phone and internet you can play the races as easily from your couch as at a simulcast, and the beer is cheaper. In the early days of the Cup, you went to the Cup or watched on TV or at an OTB. Then more and more simulcast became available and you watchedat your local track. Then as ADW became available people realized that it was cheaper and fun to watch at home, maybe have friends over or watch and follow via blogs and bb's.
That said, the networks have not done a service to the horseplayers tha are watching.
The blimp shot is great for replaying the race but dreadful for the live action. I hate all the jumping around. (I was sure I was going to win with Westphalia until I realized I had 1/16 to go!) The dopey interviews to the exclusion of real time odds etc is insanity. Breaking for commercials with 90 seconds to post is infuriating. The networks need to at least now and then acknowledge that unlike baseball and football, in racing the betting is LEGAL and that the entire game is in fact funded by it!
This is true, hope you had a good day as usual "you" guys do a great job at the "mother ship"
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:49 PM
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This is true, hope you had a good day as usual "you" guys do a great job at the "mother ship"
By about 4pm I was hoping to get beamed up to another galaxy. What a day...to much of a good thing is ...a BAD thing...
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:52 PM
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By about 4pm I was hoping to get beamed up to another galaxy. What a day...to much of a good thing is ...a BAD thing...


but, you DO get a few days off???

I don't care what ANYONE thinks here, you guys are the best!
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:08 AM
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Back to work on Monday. Meanwhile my boy (avatar pic) got the day off today and will be annoyed with me for showing up tomorrow before he's has his pasture time.

I did have a decent day at the windows as I boxed the exacta in the Juvie and Turf and had the Tri in the Mile. It's like getting bonus pay for the day.
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:58 PM
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hardcore fans are the only ones watching. i doubt having people call males 'she', confusing trainers, and hyping horses as being some of the best evah will make people who don't care about racing suddenly decide to tune in, kurt russell or no kurt russell.
Randy Moss, who should know better, called Dancing Forever a "she" several times. I wanted to scream.

The overhead camera angle drove me nuts - why try to reinvent the wheel? When I watch a baseball game, the best and simplest shot is from center field. Period. I don't need razzle dazzle to watch a race - just let me see the horses.
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