Oracle - Songster

[Scav]

Originally Posted by oracle80

The only knock I have with any sheet numbers, and have always had, is that when there is a dead rail and you are wide like both of the top two finishers in the Amsterdam, you get credit for being wide when it is in fact a positive. Means you get credit for being wide even though it was indeed the place to be. The inverse is that if you are on a dead rail you don't get any path credit points even though you took the worst of it.
I would caution anyone betting the lats part of this meet and the early part of Belmont Fall to consult with charts and write down the days up here when the rail was no good and inside speed horses were compromised, you better have a lot of ink your pen because their were so damn many. And a few days where the bias was split because of rain that fell during the card or the inverse, when the track started wet and finished dry.

This I agree with but TG is usually pretty dead on when the rail is dead, ESPECIALLY in NY, at least in my experience

Originally Posted by Scav

This I agree with but TG is usually pretty dead on when the rail is dead, ESPECIALLY in NY, at least in my experience

Whatever you say chief, all I know is that a horse who couldnt win allowance races beat a horse who beat Too Much Bling(who returned to another 500 grander in his next race). If you truly believe that Court Folly improved that much with no regression from the other horse, well good luck. So you must love Court Folly on Saturday then right? To at least get a piece of it?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Whatever you say chief, all I know is that a horse who couldnt win allowance races beat a horse who beat Too Much Bling(who returned to another 500 grander in his next race). If you truly believe that Court Folly improved that much with no regression from the other horse, well good luck. So you must love Court Folly on Saturday then right? To at least get a piece of it?

Not at all, I am singling HH on every ticket and dropping close to a tuiton bill on him to win

Originally Posted by Scav

Not at all, I am singling HH on every ticket and dropping close to a tuiton bill on him to win

WIthout even knowing how the track is playing? Chance of rain on Friday night into Saturday. Track could be ANYTHING. Better keep an open mind when capping that card to the possibility of different track conditions.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by oracle80

WIthout even knowing how the track is playing? Chance of rain on Friday night into Saturday. Track could be ANYTHING. Better keep an open mind when capping that card to the possibility of different track conditions.

An earthquake, along with a tornado and hurricane like conditions could be going on AT THE SAME TIME, and HH would still win the race by 3 lengths

[Gander]

I read your post before Scavs about Henny possibly hugging the rail and Johnny V trying to shoot through. Are you implying that Henny may possibly not be on the lead in here and try to win this race stalking?

I hope for your sake Henny makes the lead out of the gate because I dont think he passes horses too often. I wouldnt want to relying on Johnny shooting through if I had a tuition payment on him to win. Seems dicey to me.

[Gander]

Scavs.. how much do you think the HH/Bernadini double will pay?

Not even sure one will be offered but if it is, my guess is the double would pay between $4 and $5 for a $2 bet.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Gander

I read your post before Scavs about Henny possibly hugging the rail and Johnny V trying to shoot through. Are you implying that Henny may possibly not be on the lead in here and try to win this race stalking?

I hope for your sake Henny makes the lead out of the gate because I dont think he passes horses too often. I wouldnt want to relying on Johnny shooting through if I had a tuition payment on him to win. Seems dicey to me.

Henny can stalk--I don't think he can close.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by Scav

Not at all, I am singling HH on every ticket and dropping close to a tuiton bill on him to win

Scavs.. how much do you think the HH/Bernadini double will pay?