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10-15-2008, 12:04 PM
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Check this wacko who works for Peta and changed her name
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/14/cut....ap/index.html 
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10-15-2008, 12:11 PM
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10-15-2008, 01:38 PM
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PETA is like the little kid who screams at the top of his/her lungs just to be heard. Shows just how significant they are too. The more stupid stuff they do, the less anyone takes them seriously.
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10-15-2008, 01:46 PM
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October 14, 2008
Michael Iavarone, Co-President/Co-CEO Richard J. Schiavo, Co-President/Co-CEO International Equine Acquisitions Holdings, Inc. 595 Stewart Ave., Suite 810 Garden City, NY 11530 1 page via fax Dear Messrs. Iavarone and Schiavo, On behalf of PETA’s two million members and supporters, I am writing to extend our condolences on Big Brown’s injuries, which are reportedly serious enough to be career ending, and to ask you to take a very difficult step. For the good of future generations of thoroughbreds, we ask you not to stand Big Brown at stud. Rather than pass on the traits of a horse who has been plagued by injuries throughout his brief career, we ask that you geld and retire Big Brown. Following the breakdown and death of Eight Belles, questions that had been confined to racing insiders became public: What has happened to thoroughbreds? Why are more than 700 horses suffering catastrophic injuries resulting in deaths on the race track every year? Some of the problems are attributed to breeding. Stallions with the fewest starts, whose careers are cut short by injury or fear of injury, are more likely to be bred than horses with longer racing careers. Logical people are questioning why unsound horses are being bred. One of the issues is that the use of legal drugs such as phenylbutazone has contributed to keeping unsound horses competing and thus covering up weaknesses. But as important, the desire for speed appears to have trumped common sense. Numerous media outlets reported that all 20 of the horses who competed in this year’s Kentucky Derby had genes from Native Dancer—a winning horse who likely passed along a tendency toward unsoundness along with his speed. Native Dancer, too, was retired for leg injuries. Like Native Dancer, Big Brown’s ascendency has been marred by ongoing leg and hoof problems, including a quarter crack in his hoof just before the Belmont Stakes. Will you set aside your own desire for profit and do what’s right for the horses? These animals have brought you fame and fortune. Perhaps now you could find it in your hearts to do them a favor. Best regards, Kathy Guillermo Director of Research
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10-15-2008, 01:54 PM
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Holy Mother of God!!
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10-15-2008, 02:25 PM
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With all due respect to Big Brown, he is a talented and gutsy horse, I do understand the viewpoint of the letter . Soundness is sacrificed for a short and speedy career insofar as breeding goes .
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10-15-2008, 02:29 PM
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Seriously, I know PETA = bad!!! BAD PETA!!! but haven't many of you been saying basically the same thing this year? How it's a shame that a horse with such bad feet is going to be passing his genes on to hundreds of new thoroughbreds?
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10-15-2008, 05:23 PM
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I really wonder if they have 2 million members and supporters. I think we need to question the 700 horses suffering catastrophic breakdowns. (is that world wide including countries like Mexico and Uraguay) I don't think IEAH will/ should castrate Big Brown. I just hope that people won't take their mares to him and people won't buy his bad feet progeny 
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10-15-2008, 10:16 PM
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10-15-2008, 02:30 PM
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10-15-2008, 02:48 PM
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Good to know PETA would support and sponsor horse racing if certain breeding practices were followed.
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10-15-2008, 02:52 PM
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Brown was sound enough to be the star of the 3yo division.
If some of his offspring have soft feet and can't race - they aren't gonna make it to breeding. These things have a way of working themselves out.
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10-15-2008, 03:01 PM
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I may be in the minority here... but imho BB is a more legitimate candidate for stud duty than at least half the stud population out there right now.....unless I missed something his retirement is not due to soundness issues but rather due to an injury that was sustained during training....and while it has been pretty well documented that he has had feet problems, I'm of the opinion that there are few if any horses that don't have some type of issues during there racing career.... I don't think he will necessarilly become a notably great sire but I don't agree that he will be negatively impacting the breed as compared to many many of the sires that are out there at this time.
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10-15-2008, 06:02 PM
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10-15-2008, 06:59 PM
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10-15-2008, 07:10 PM
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
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10-15-2008, 10:19 PM
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10-15-2008, 10:25 PM
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