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Old 10-14-2008, 01:52 PM
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I could care less who runs and who doesn't. I will watch but will wager on Pha pk, Mnr, Haw,and all the other cheap clm and alw racing,tracks that I make money at. Betting these stakes races anytime, is a losing proposition, over the long run. No one can really throw out any horse and make a bet that the odds are in your favor by simple elimanation, and a few real contenders left at a decent price. When you bet and hit a long price you are guessing with these top horses. Every year the pay-offs are huge and the handicapping can't figure this out, if it could then they would'nt paid this well, do yourself a favor and do the doable. Watch enjoy but don't bet like the losers.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:29 PM
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I could care less who runs and who doesn't. I will watch but will wager on Pha pk, Mnr, Haw,and all the other cheap clm and alw racing,tracks that I make money at. Betting these stakes races anytime, is a losing proposition, over the long run. No one can really throw out any horse and make a bet that the odds are in your favor by simple elimanation, and a few real contenders left at a decent price. When you bet and hit a long price you are guessing with these top horses. Every year the pay-offs are huge and the handicapping can't figure this out, if it could then they would'nt paid this well, do yourself a favor and do the doable. Watch enjoy but don't bet like the losers.
You are just so depressing...Dont you ever say anything positive? I was all set to bet the BC now you have ruined it for me.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:32 PM
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You are just so depressing...Dont you ever say anything positive? I was all set to bet the BC now you have ruined it for me.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:08 PM
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I could care less who runs and who doesn't. I will watch but will wager on Pha pk, Mnr, Haw,and all the other cheap clm and alw racing,tracks that I make money at. Betting these stakes races anytime, is a losing proposition, over the long run. No one can really throw out any horse and make a bet that the odds are in your favor by simple elimanation, and a few real contenders left at a decent price. When you bet and hit a long price you are guessing with these top horses. Every year the pay-offs are huge and the handicapping can't figure this out, if it could then they would'nt paid this well, do yourself a favor and do the doable. Watch enjoy but don't bet like the losers.
You must be a grunge fan .
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Old 10-14-2008, 05:31 PM
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I completely disagree. That said, my betting this year will be a lot less than usual, because of surface. But the Breeders Cup and other big days are usually prime days to find a lot of value.
Then you are one of the very few exceptions,in horseracing, betting. I track picks on this site along with Byk's for my own info to get an edge, and see what others are betting and why. I have found most do poorly on higher purse and class races. Just a fact, and have seen most take losses on the multi-race bets when all is added up over period of time. Track the selections and you'll see what i mean.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:04 PM
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I'm calling bullsh.it on this one. I'd love to see this "fact" actually backed up. Am I wrong that the usual full fields don't offer great value?
Track the selections and you will see what he means...
right there with "If you build it, they wont come" (whispered to Stronach right before he tore down gulfstream)
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:43 PM
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I'm sure it would be an interesting study, I just don't believe for one second he has done it.

I actually did a doctoral thesis on it. The results were interesting, but ultimately it came down to one thing, if you remove BBB's picks overall people displayed a fairly adequate opinion.

With him included, overall, the opinions really sucked.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:45 PM
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I actually did a doctoral thesis on it. The results were interesting, but ultimately it came down to one thing, if you remove BBB's picks overall people displayed a fairly adequate opinion.

With him the opinions really sucked.
Thank you Doctor!
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:47 PM
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Thank you Doctor!

It actually earned me validictorian status. I, excuse me, we read one of BBB's posts as our speech.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:01 PM
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Poor BBB. They come here and share all of their wisdom and this is how you repay them? Mocking? We're surprised by the lack of gratitude.
We apologize for the vanilla and heavily cambered post.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:10 PM
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sexdotcom has a point. I've found value in donkey races on the california fair circuit.
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Old 10-15-2008, 06:15 AM
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I took Monday off and went to the OTB 1 hour away. The system was down through the 1st race at Belmont. The teller was an idiot and there were plenty of characters to remind me why I enjoy betting via the internet.

if I can't play the Breeder's Cup from home I may not play at all. The disputes over ADW have prevented me from playing many of my favorite tracks. I don't like calling in my bets and haven't played or watched one race at Santa Anita.

I have quit playing everyday and every weekend and don't have the desire to "Crush the Cup"

the Breeder's Cup used to be the greatest not it is the least greatest.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:45 PM
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I'm sure it would be an interesting study, I just don't believe for one second he has done it.
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