Tips/Thoughts on Breeders' Cup tickets this year?

[TitanSooner]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

lol, yeah, not quite.

What the hell was that horse named? I think he was from New Mexico.

Ricks Natural Star?

[Danzig]

he won the first part of the race.

[letswastemoney]

How can anyone say he should be 50-1?? His beyers are on par with the rest of the 3 year old crop. He's a grade 2 winner, in only his 2nd start! I think people don't like him because of all the attention he's getting.

[cowgirlintexas]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

How can anyone say he should be 50-1?? His beyers are on par with the rest of the 3 year old crop. He's a grade 2 winner, in only his 2nd start! I think people don't like him because of all the attention he's getting.

Sweet..more $$ in my pocket

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm sure partly that is true. But you have to understand, we're talking about a horse that has made 3 lifetime starts. He ran well in the Peter Pan, but that certainly hasn't come back a good race. It was a grade 2 in name only. It just is strange to me that people are talking so highly of a horse that will be such underlaid odds. Basically because of who his dam has produced. It just doesn't make much sense to me from a betting perspective.

He now has a race and win over the track, he cruised around off of a long layoff. Who is really def. better, unless your taKING a shot with a horse who has never ran over the surface Example: Curlin or any of the Europeans. I will be sticking to the horse proven over Synthetics. Casino, Go Between and Tiago.

Originally Posted by hrfan

He now has a race and win over the track, he cruised around off of a long layoff. Who is really def. better, unless your taKING a shot with a horse who has never ran over the surface Example: Curlin or any of the Europeans. I will be sticking to the horse proven over Synthetics. Casino, Go Between and Tiago.

Well that makes things easier...


*scribes frantically*

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm sure partly that is true. But you have to understand, we're talking about a horse that has made 3 lifetime starts. He ran well in the Peter Pan, but that certainly hasn't come back a good race. It was a grade 2 in name only. It just is strange to me that people are talking so highly of a horse that will be such underlaid odds. Basically because of who his dam has produced. It just doesn't make much sense to me from a betting perspective.

So, what would you take as fair odds in the win spot?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

At least 30 to 1.

He's still an underlay at 30:1.

[Quiet Chris]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He's still an underlay at 30:1.

Not really. 12-1 is a solid line on him. There is no early speed and he could easily wire this field. Plus he has a win over the track.

[slotdirt]

That "win over the track" angle is always a great barometer. Court Vision, for example, parlayed that angle into a successful 13th place finish in this year's Derby.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

That "win over the track" angle is always a great barometer. Court Vision, for example, parlayed that angle into a successful 13th place finish in this year's Derby.

Yes, myself I usually prefer a win over good horses to a win over the track. But, hey, to each his ( or her ) own. Maybe beating 25K claimers, while driving, 13 days before the BC Classic has Casino Drive right where they want him.

However, if nobody knew who his dam was, and the race was oversubscribed, people would be screaming bloody murder that he was even allowed in the race. The bottom line is that he has absolutely no credentials.

It's funny, personally, I would be happy to see him do well. His connections were at Belmont for weeks and seemed really great. But, objectively this situation is a bit curious. He belongs in the BC because he's related to Rags to Riches? OK......that makes sense.