Tips/Thoughts on Breeders' Cup tickets this year?

Danzig · #1 10-14-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

They can't bear to watch Tiago get smoked.. What does horse of the year mean? Who cares about this crap do trainers get some type of monetary perk for winning HOY? i

hoy can add to a horses stud fee-it usually will, altho i think if curlin was to win again he wouldn't see his fee increase, i think he's topped out in that respect. some trainers have gotten a share of a stallion, so yeah, it could pay off if the fee is elevated. then there's getting some publicity for the award, and possibly more owners will send their horses as a result. it sure can't hurt!

freddymo · #2 10-14-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

hoy can add to a horses stud fee-it usually will, altho i think if curlin was to win again he wouldn't see his fee increase, i think he's topped out in that respect. some trainers have gotten a share of a stallion, so yeah, it could pay off if the fee is elevated. then there's getting some publicity for the award, and possibly more owners will send their horses as a result. it sure can't hurt!

Yeah bro Zenyatta winning Horse of the Year would be a huge plus to her stud value. Chuck mentioned in the post above that running Zenyatta in the Classic could get HER HOY..

sdjcom · #3 10-14-2008, 01:52 PM

I could care less who runs and who doesn't. I will watch but will wager on Pha pk, Mnr, Haw,and all the other cheap clm and alw racing,tracks that I make money at. Betting these stakes races anytime, is a losing proposition, over the long run. No one can really throw out any horse and make a bet that the odds are in your favor by simple elimanation, and a few real contenders left at a decent price. When you bet and hit a long price you are guessing with these top horses. Every year the pay-offs are huge and the handicapping can't figure this out, if it could then they would'nt paid this well, do yourself a favor and do the doable. Watch enjoy but don't bet like the losers.

Cannon Shell · #4 10-14-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom

I could care less who runs and who doesn't. I will watch but will wager on Pha pk, Mnr, Haw,and all the other cheap clm and alw racing,tracks that I make money at. Betting these stakes races anytime, is a losing proposition, over the long run. No one can really throw out any horse and make a bet that the odds are in your favor by simple elimanation, and a few real contenders left at a decent price. When you bet and hit a long price you are guessing with these top horses. Every year the pay-offs are huge and the handicapping can't figure this out, if it could then they would'nt paid this well, do yourself a favor and do the doable. Watch enjoy but don't bet like the losers.

You are just so depressing...Dont you ever say anything positive? I was all set to bet the BC now you have ruined it for me.

ELA · #5 10-14-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You are just so depressing...Dont you ever say anything positive? I was all set to bet the BC now you have ruined it for me.

LOL.

sumitas · #6 10-14-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom

I could care less who runs and who doesn't. I will watch but will wager on Pha pk, Mnr, Haw,and all the other cheap clm and alw racing,tracks that I make money at. Betting these stakes races anytime, is a losing proposition, over the long run. No one can really throw out any horse and make a bet that the odds are in your favor by simple elimanation, and a few real contenders left at a decent price. When you bet and hit a long price you are guessing with these top horses. Every year the pay-offs are huge and the handicapping can't figure this out, if it could then they would'nt paid this well, do yourself a favor and do the doable. Watch enjoy but don't bet like the losers.

You must be a grunge fan .

sdjcom · #7 10-14-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I completely disagree. That said, my betting this year will be a lot less than usual, because of surface. But the Breeders Cup and other big days are usually prime days to find a lot of value.

Then you are one of the very few exceptions,in horseracing, betting. I track picks on this site along with Byk's for my own info to get an edge, and see what others are betting and why. I have found most do poorly on higher purse and class races. Just a fact, and have seen most take losses on the multi-race bets when all is added up over period of time. Track the selections and you'll see what i mean.

Cannon Shell · #8 10-14-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm calling bullsh.it on this one. I'd love to see this "fact" actually backed up. Am I wrong that the usual full fields don't offer great value?

Track the selections and you will see what he means...
right there with "If you build it, they wont come" (whispered to Stronach right before he tore down gulfstream)

blackthroatedwind · #9 10-14-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm sure it would be an interesting study, I just don't believe for one second he has done it.

I actually did a doctoral thesis on it. The results were interesting, but ultimately it came down to one thing, if you remove BBB's picks overall people displayed a fairly adequate opinion.

With him included, overall, the opinions really sucked.

Cannon Shell · #10 10-14-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I actually did a doctoral thesis on it. The results were interesting, but ultimately it came down to one thing, if you remove BBB's picks overall people displayed a fairly adequate opinion.

With him the opinions really sucked.

Thank you Doctor!

blackthroatedwind · #11 10-14-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Poor BBB. They come here and share all of their wisdom and this is how you repay them? Mocking? We're surprised by the lack of gratitude.

We apologize for the vanilla and heavily cambered post.

Cannon Shell · #12 10-14-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm sure it would be an interesting study, I just don't believe for one second he has done it.

Danzig · #13 10-14-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Yeah bro Zenyatta winning Horse of the Year would be a huge plus to her stud value. Chuck mentioned in the post above that running Zenyatta in the Classic could get HER HOY..

oh, sorry sis, i was replying to what i read from you about tiago. sorry i didn't go back up far enough...

Cannon Shell · #14 10-14-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Yeah bro Zenyatta winning Horse of the Year would be a huge plus to her stud value. Chuck mentioned in the post above that running Zenyatta in the Classic could get HER HOY..

They get a nice trophy and maybe a discount season to Big Brown or Kip DeVille