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Old 10-13-2008, 04:14 PM
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Big Brown was the favorite. Elysium Fields was second choice and got injured during the race I believe.
Dehydration I think. . .
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Old 10-13-2008, 04:16 PM
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Dehydration I think. . .
You're probably right, but then what's sidelined him since?
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Old 10-13-2008, 04:22 PM
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You're probably right, but then what's sidelined him since?
Not sure - "Severely Overheated, 'Strained Himself'" according to Illman's blog. . .
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Old 10-13-2008, 05:38 PM
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I think arguing about Big Brown's Beyer #'s from the FL Derby and KY Derby, and using those #'s to talk about what kind of horse he is, whether or not the race was a good one or not, etc. -- is every entertaining to say the least.

Now that Curlin's work is over, I would suspect that if he doesn't go, it would excusively be because the connections saw Casino Drive's race. LOL.

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Old 10-13-2008, 05:48 PM
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You're probably right, but then what's sidelined him since?
May have had a dehydrated tendon or dehydrated cannon bone...
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Old 10-13-2008, 06:53 PM
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OK so I don't have the guts to start this question as a new thread so I'm hoping someonce can answer but still stays low on the radar in case it is an incredibly stupid one.


Has there ever been a high profile race horse that retired to stud (even briefly), and then came back to legitimately race again?
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Old 10-13-2008, 06:56 PM
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OK so I don't have the guts to start this question as a new thread so I'm hoping someonce can answer but still stays low on the radar in case it is an incredibly stupid one.


Has there ever been a high profile race horse that retired to stud (even briefly), and then came back to legitimately race again?
The winner of the 3rd BC Classic, Skywalker, did.
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:03 PM
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The winner of the 3rd BC Classic, Skywalker, did.

Thanks!

OK so that wasn't too crazy of a question. Was that considered an interesting footnote to his story back then?
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:11 AM
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The winner of the 3rd BC Classic, Skywalker, did.

Didnt Artax go back in training after being a stud for a season? I dont know if he raced though.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:44 AM
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Bertrando took a shot at it.
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:02 PM
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OK so I don't have the guts to start this question as a new thread so I'm hoping someonce can answer but still stays low on the radar in case it is an incredibly stupid one.


Has there ever been a high profile race horse that retired to stud (even briefly), and then came back to legitimately race again?
Precisionist did.
George Washington.
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Precisionist did.
George Washington.
Had George Washington not broken down last year, would he have most likely gone back to stud?
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Had George Washington not broken down last year, would he have most likely gone back to stud?
No.
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Seabiscuit? While he was recovering from his bowed tendon, he covered mares at his owner's ranch, then came back and won the Santa Anita H.

In more recent times, one of my favorites Silveyville, winner of the G1 Hollywood Derby at 3 in 1981. For a couple of years in the latter part of his career, he would serve his mares in the spring, then come back to racing in the fall, going back to the farm after a couple of races at Santa Anita in the winter. The last year he ran, when he was 8, he won a G3 in January, then came back in late summer to run third in the Carleton F. Burke (G2) at Oak Tree and 2nd in the Citation H (G3) at Hollywood.
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Seabiscuit? While he was recovering from his bowed tendon, he covered mares at his owner's ranch, then came back and won the Santa Anita H.

In more recent times, one of my favorites Silveyville, winner of the G1 Hollywood Derby at 3 in 1981. For a couple of years in the latter part of his career, he would serve his mares in the spring, then come back to racing in the fall, going back to the farm after a couple of races at Santa Anita in the winter. The last year he ran, when he was 8, he won a G3 in January, then came back in late summer to run third in the Carleton F. Burke (G2) at Oak Tree and 2nd in the Citation H (G3) at Hollywood.
Maybe one day we can add Big Brown to this list I hope so.
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:57 PM
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OK so I don't have the guts to start this question as a new thread so I'm hoping someonce can answer but still stays low on the radar in case it is an incredibly stupid one.


Has there ever been a high profile race horse that retired to stud (even briefly), and then came back to legitimately race again?
wasn't fabulous strike retired and found to be sub-fertile?
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wasn't fabulous strike retired and found to be sub-fertile?
He's a gelding, so no. I think you're thinking of High Limit.


Good article in the Bloodhorse, for once I actually believe Iavarone:
http://bc.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=47528
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He's a gelding, so no. I think you're thinking of High Limit.


Good article in the Bloodhorse, for once I actually believe Iavarone:
http://bc.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=47528
no, was thinking of another horse. thought a sprinter was retired last fall and then brought back because of lack of fertility...but i don't remember, lack of sleep probably!
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Old 10-13-2008, 10:13 PM
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Good article in the Bloodhorse, for once I actually believe Iavarone:
http://bc.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=47528
Agreed. What's not to believe? Of course he's crushed.

Like him or not, Iavarone is at Belmont to see the IEAH horses run all the time ( and co-owner Paul Pompa comes to see his horses most days as well ). They just lost a once in a lifetime opportunity and had to retire a once in a lifetime horse.

I wish the horse raced in one or two of the Travers, Woodward, or JCGC, and feel they missed an opportunity. I am sorry he went out with a win in a relatively meaningless grass race at Monmouth and now we are left not knowing how he would have performed against at least the very best dirt horse racing now. However, the BC wouldn't have answered that, and frankly even if you weren't a big fan of Big Brown, we should be glad he was around to spruce up what could have been a very disappointing TC season.

Close your eyes and imagine the series without Big Brown, IEAH, or Rick Dutrow.
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:59 PM
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Covered already.

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