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Old 10-13-2008, 06:41 AM
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remind me again how obama is going to take care of that pesky deficit? how he'll balance the budget? oh, that's right...not in the works in either candidates plan.

also, isn't obama proposing tax increases on corporations and small business? how will that help most americans, since most of us either run, or work for a corporation/small business? isn't anything that harms business also going to harm employees?

also, since obama said he's going to hold off on cap gains tax increases due to the economy, doesn't that also put a hold on his tax cuts to the middle class?
Here's what I don't get. Don't Republicans believe in less government involvement and less government spending (thereby reducing taxes)?
Then, why is it that when the last two Republican Presidents got into office the national debt skyrocketed? This isn't a slam against Bush and Reagan as much as it just a question. Is the answer simply Cold War spending(Reagan) and 9/11, Iraq, economy(Bush) ?
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Old 10-13-2008, 02:34 PM
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Here's what I don't get. Don't Republicans believe in less government involvement and less government spending (thereby reducing taxes)?
Then, why is it that when the last two Republican Presidents got into office the national debt skyrocketed? This isn't a slam against Bush and Reagan as much as it just a question. Is the answer simply Cold War spending(Reagan) and 9/11, Iraq, economy(Bush) ?
at this point, i think it's a falsehood that either party doesn't believe in big govt. too many now look at the party and want to know what it's done for them. then there's the states having shuffled most of their responsibilities onto the feds as well.
i'm sure it's a variety of factors--and of course the more we make as a country, the more they spend. everyone, here and abroad looks at this country as being one big piggy bank for them to dip into.
i forget tho, which candidate is supposed to do less damage to the deficit in the years to come. obama's supposed tax cuts are higher than those of mccain, but i think obama has also asked for more spending-supposedly cap gains and other increases make up the difference.
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:49 AM
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at this point, i think it's a falsehood that either party doesn't believe in big govt. too many now look at the party and want to know what it's done for them. then there's the states having shuffled most of their responsibilities onto the feds as well.
I agree with Zig. Both parties don't seem to mind spending tax dollars.
As for the states, they're shuffling their responsibilities to the feds and local municipalitites. (medicaid, anyone?)
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Anyone see McCain's stump speech yesterday? He was excellent, drawing emotion, courage, and hope. If he'd been talking like that he would be easily in the lead. It was like the Cleveland Browns yesterday pulling some great stuff out of no where.

Why didn't he talk like that before? These guys that coach McCain have cost him the election...or maybe he makes a fast closing move..
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