Tips/Thoughts on Breeders' Cup tickets this year?

[docicu3]

Just when you were convinced that perhaps the BC was actually concerned with fans being able to watch the races and follow the position of horses during a race.........THE DREADED PURPLE SADDLE CLOTHS ARE BACK.

In another display of exactly how much disdain there remains for players as reported Friday on ATR with Byk, Rick Hammerle again belatedly made public the intentions of the BC to again 1) refuse to use colored sadlle cloths or 2) pay for state of the art Trakus as is used currently at KE and Del Mar.

Once again the races will be impossible to watch becuase you cannot distinguish one horse from another as is the case in virtually every track in the country.

"I used to get disgusted but now I try and stay amused".....

[letswastemoney]

They really aren't that bad....no one is going to mistake Zenyatta for Hystericalady. You know most of these horses.

And if it's near the finish line and your horse isn't one of the first 4 or so that you can see clearly, you've probably lost all hope anyway.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

They really aren't that bad....no one is going to mistake Zenyatta for Hystericalady. You know most of these horses.

And if it's near the finish line and your horse isn't one of the first 4 or so that you can see clearly, you've probably lost all hope anyway.

There's no reason to have them all the same color. Sorry if I'd like to know where my horses are before the finish line.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

There's no reason to have them all the same color. Sorry if I'd like to know where my horses are before the finish line.

Look at the silks of your horse, those kind of help.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ

Look at the silks of your horse, those kind of help.

Want to lend me some binoculars? What if I have multiple horses in the race? It's a little annoying to have to try to ferret out the silks of 3-4 horses and then attempt to follow them all, whereas with Trakus or colored saddlecloths, I could see right away where everyone was.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Want to lend me some binoculars? What if I have multiple horses in the race? It's a little annoying to have to try to ferret out the silks of 3-4 horses and then attempt to follow them all, whereas with Trakus or colored saddlecloths, I could see right away where everyone was.

BINGO

Do away with TRACK ANNOUNCERS -- they're about as accurate as chart makers --

and invest the money in TRAKUS. Watching races is EASY when the NUMBERS on the screen are ACCURATE. With Trakus, you don't even need the colored cloths.

Time for the industry to CATCH UP WITH PRESENT TECHNOLOGY (and thus gain some desperately needed ACCURACY).

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

BINGO

Do away with TRACK ANNOUNCERS -- they're about as accurate as chart makers --

and invest the money in TRAKUS. Watching races is EASY when the NUMBERS on the screen are ACCURATE. With Trakus, you don't even need the colored cloths.

Time for the industry to CATCH UP WITH PRESENT TECHNOLOGY (and thus gain some desperately needed ACCURACY).

Why isnt TVG using trakus at KEE this year? I guess, like everything else in this game, it makes too much sense.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ

Look at the silks of your horse, those kind of help.

Didn't work last year. All the silks were brown.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Didn't work last year. All the silks were brown.

You sure bro??

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GPK

You sure bro??

er, i think he means muddy.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Didn't work last year. All the silks were brown.

and wet!

[pgiaco]

The purple saddle towels are a pain in the a$$ to follow, but it's really no worse than trying to watch European races, especially Ascot where the numbers are microscopic and the saddle towels are all the same color.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

They really aren't that bad....no one is going to mistake Zenyatta for Hystericalady. You know most of these horses.

Horses? Who said anything about horses?

We're trying to watch colored squares here.

Horse racing has finally been distilled to a live-action version of super lotto. They just substituted some beasts of burden on a dirt track for the wind machine that blows the balls around in the plastic bin.

[10 pnt move up]

The purple cloths, and purlple and white are in general the brand of the breeders cup, I think they are more concerned with that then the player. I look at silks anyways.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

The purple cloths, and purlple and white are in general the brand of the breeders cup, I think they are more concerned with that then the player. I look at silks anyways.

great for win bets.

but when i have 5 horses in a leg of a multi or multiple horses for 3rd in a tri i miss the simplicity of a color/number that's ingrained.

it actually feels like the lottery with all purple. i have no f'in idea in a loud crowd what the announcer is saying.

all purple is the triumph of the horse racing is a "sport" argument over "gambling". no one who bets understands this.

[MaTH716]

Not to mention that ABC/ESPN will probably have all these crazy camera angles where you will not be able to see the number on the saddlecloth, but maybe pick up a color. At least if it was color coded you would have some idea where your horses are.
God is right about the silks theory too.

At least we will have Trevor there to give us an accurate description to what's going on.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Not to mention that ABC/ESPN will probably have all these crazy camera angles where you will not be able to see the number on the saddlecloth, but maybe pick up a color. At least if it was color coded you would have some idea where your horses are.
God is right about the silks theory too.

At least we will have Trevor there to give us an accurate description to what's going on.

I was thinking about this today and honestly I cant believe people defend this style of showing the races. What other sport has the camera angles changed during the action. I dont want to hear about autoracing or golf. But if you are watching a football or basketball game they dont switch camera angles during the play. And if they show an angle other than behind the pitcher in baseball, you almost cant follow what is going on. But these genius directors feel the need to switch angles 10 times during the race. Why not give us different shots during the replay of the race since they have 30 minutes between the races and the actual race usually only takes 2 minutes to run. Having the races in HD is a obvious plus though.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Not to mention that ABC/ESPN will probably have all these crazy camera angles where you will not be able to see the number on the saddlecloth, but maybe pick up a color. At least if it was color coded you would have some idea where your horses are.
God is right about the silks theory too.

At least we will have Trevor there to give us an accurate description to what's going on.

personally i like Trevor's call. i know many here don't BUT if we have trouble following our horses how can we give any race caller grief, for these 2 days.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

The purple cloths, and purple and white are in general the brand of the breeders cup, I think they are more concerned with that then the player. I look at silks anyways.

It is another example of how little energy is devoted to the comfort of the fans and their ability to follow a race as it is run. The "Let them eat cake" mentality
prevails while the handle everywhere else in the sport this year is down.

Hopefully one day the BC brain trust will actually come to believe that the event actually needs to be marketed to the comfort of the bettors if they want to maximize the handle they enjoy. The argument that bettors will play no matter what is not completely true and hopefully is proven this year when popular trainers like Mott and others stay home and hopefully the antipoly players stay away enough to get the Empires attention.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by docicu3

It is another example of how little energy is devoted to the comfort of the fans and their ability to follow a race as it is run. The "Let them eat cake" mentality
prevails while the handle everywhere else in the sport this year is down.

Hopefully one day the BC brain trust will actually come to believe that the event actually needs to be marketed to the comfort of the bettors if they want to maximize the handle they enjoy. The argument that bettors will play no matter what is not completely true and hopefully is proven this year when popular trainers like Mott and others stay home and hopefully the antipoly players stay away enough to get the Empires attention.

Since when is Mott not going?