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Old 10-09-2008, 11:34 PM
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[quote=Cajungator26]Because you're getting great prices on great companies ...

Not that I can compare this to the Great Depression at this point, but most of those that bought during those times came out on top after it was all said and done. QUOTE]

This is historically inaccurate. It took 25 years to get back to the same as the 1929 peak. If you compare it historically, the people who invested at a similar time during the depression lost their shirts and most likely didnt get them back.

Look back three weeks ago on these threads and people were saying that it was a "great time to invest" when the market was just under 11k. Now the market loses over 20% and its still a great time to invest. Are there buys? Sure there are but my bet is that the market goes lower before it gets better.
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:43 PM
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Unless you have inside information and/or have fuc|< you money..well it would just be retarded to invest right now. Over half of the companies on the stock exchange could be gone in the next 5 years.
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:54 PM
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Unless you have inside information and/or have fuc|< you money..well it would just be retarded to invest right now. Over half of the companies on the stock exchange could be gone in the next 5 years.
You are 1000% right. Fundamentals are out the window. Judging "value" based on graphs showing 5 years worth of market performance today is about as useful as using past beyers to guage the ability of a horse with a broken leg.
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Old 10-10-2008, 12:35 AM
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A question for the financial professional among us.....

Is there a significant amount of money that continues to "short" these indexes.
In other words are there traders who are able to find significant volume that they are buying daily or essentially betting that the market will continue to fall. Is it enough at this point to drive the Dow or Nasdaq down....?
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Old 10-10-2008, 12:57 AM
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A question for the financial professional among us.....

Is there a significant amount of money that continues to "short" these indexes.
In other words are there traders who are able to find significant volume that they are buying daily or essentially betting that the market will continue to fall. Is it enough at this point to drive the Dow or Nasdaq down....?
Shorts didnt cause what happened today. This is capitulation in grand fashion. If this was merely shorts, it would be confined to certain sectors. If shorts were indeed the culprit, then there should have been some sort of recovery during the short ban over the last couple of weeks.

This is a classic case of hedge funds and mutuals selling anything and everything to pay skittish investors who want out. This is proven by typical flight to safety plays (long term treasuries and mortgage backs) also getting sold off. Most telling? When Big blue gets sold off for no apparent reason, houston we have a problem...and it aint shorts.
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Old 10-10-2008, 07:59 AM
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it's like stopping a cattle stampede. good luck. a lot of people are panicked. they don't want to lose anything, so a lot are trying to bail-which is the last thing they should do, as it only makes a bad situation worse.
i haven't moved anything, and have no intention of doing so. our 401k is taking a hit, but the further down it goes, the cheaper the mutual funds i continue to buy into get, which will (hopefully) increase the gains i make later, when everything improves.
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Old 10-10-2008, 08:09 AM
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it's like stopping a cattle stampede. good luck. a lot of people are panicked. they don't want to lose anything, so a lot are trying to bail-which is the last thing they should do, as it only makes a bad situation worse.i haven't moved anything, and have no intention of doing so. our 401k is taking a hit, but the further down it goes, the cheaper the mutual funds i continue to buy into get, which will (hopefully) increase the gains i make later, when everything improves.
Agreed. And I like the last sentence too ... not IF everything improves, but WHEN.

I guess I should be sorry that I have enough faith in this country to think that it's going to pick itself back up and keep going.
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Old 10-10-2008, 08:21 AM
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Shorts didnt cause what happened today. This is capitulation in grand fashion. If this was merely shorts, it would be confined to certain sectors. If shorts were indeed the culprit, then there should have been some sort of recovery during the short ban over the last couple of weeks.

This is a classic case of hedge funds and mutuals selling anything and everything to pay skittish investors who want out. This is proven by typical flight to safety plays (long term treasuries and mortgage backs) also getting sold off. Most telling? When Big blue gets sold off for no apparent reason, houston we have a problem...and it aint shorts.
Agreed 100%.

So what do you think we should do? Do you think that every American should sell off everything they own in the market? What would be your advice to people calling all day long in panick mode?
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Old 10-10-2008, 11:24 AM
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No bottom in sight, for those in the market. I feel your pain.
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Old 10-10-2008, 12:39 PM
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Agreed 100%.

So what do you think we should do? Do you think that every American should sell off everything they own in the market? What would be your advice to people calling all day long in panick mode?
let me preface the below by saying that I am far from a market guru

The only people that should be selling now are the people that are 2-3 years from retirement. And if I were them I would still ride it out and hopefully get back some of the 50% they have lost. If anyone our age sells they should be shot in the head. If anything, people our age should be getting ready to put every penny they have into this market.

In about 30 years, there will be alot of people that made the decision to dump some cash into the market right around now, and they will be retiring pretty happy because of that very decision.

It is an amazing opportunity for 20-30's to solidify their retirement and make some real money, a year ago we were trying to play into a 15k Dow, and now, we will get to play within a 7k Dow....
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