Is a vote for Sarah..a vote for Todd as well?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

And what have you brought Chuck besides your uneducated views on a topic you have nary a clue. You attempt to regurgitate your party line banter no doubt garnered from Foxnews and Sean Hannity. YOU THINK ISRAEL WAS BORN IN 1945 and our policy hasnt changed since. What choice do i have but to call that statement ignorant?

hard to believe I put 1945 when it was 1948. So far off. What have I said that isnt true? That Isreal is our only ally in the ME? That the ME is a unstable area? That Isreal has nukes and wont be afraid to use them if threatened? That it is impossible for people on a mesage board to determine the what amount of aid between countries is correct? That our policy towrds Isreal has been pretty consistent regardless of ruling party?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

hard to believe I put 1945 when it was 1948. So far off. What have I said that isnt true? That Isreal is our only ally in the ME? That the ME is a unstable area? That Isreal has nukes and wont be afraid to use them if threatened? That it is impossible for people on a mesage board to determine the what amount of aid between countries is correct? That our policy towrds Isreal has been pretty consistent regardless of ruling party?

Those are base facts. Is that what you are resorting to? You need to stick to debates with the antitrust32's of the world.

Where are your facts wrong?

Policy toward Israel hasnt changed since 1945,er, 1948

This alone shows a complete lack of understanding of US policy toward the region. It was not until the mid 60's that the US policy changed significantly. 1967 to be exact. Our aid to Israel both militarily and economically increased dramatically. These were the formative years of the neo con movement. Nixon years. Between 1967 and 1990, we had all of four years with a democrat in office.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Those are base facts. Is that what you are resorting to? You need to stick to debates with the antitrust32's of the world.

Where are your facts wrong?

Policy toward Israel hasnt changed since 1945,er, 1948

This alone shows a complete lack of understanding of US policy toward the region. It was not until the mid 60's that the US policy changed significantly. 1967 to be exact. Our aid to Israel both militarily and economically increased dramatically. These were the formative years of the neo con movement. Nixon years. Between 1967 and 1990, we had all of four years with a democrat in office.

DalaHO, you really kicked his butt in the debate considering the only thing you can call him out on is a three year difference in when the country was formed. Way to go, you should be so proud you are still an idiot!!

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

DalaHO, you really kicked his butt in the debate considering the only thing you can call him out on is a three year difference in when the country was formed. Way to go, you should be so proud you are still an idiot!!

The fact that that is all you garnered from this whole discussion was a three year difference in time (as if that is minor) shows how hopelessly stupid and ignorant you are. What should i expect from a lesbian that claims to be a republican?

Keep up the suck up role. everyone needs a place i guess. You certainly have yours.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Where is the love for my vikes pick coach?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The fact that that is all you garnered from this whole discussion was a three year difference in time (as if that is minor) shows how hopelessly stupid and ignorant you are. What should i expect from a lesbian that claims to be a republican?

Keep up the suck up role. everyone needs a place i guess. You certainly have yours.

I garnered that you are a typical arrogant liberal who comes with nothing of substance except attacks on other posters who may not agree with your politics or 'values'. You denied the existance of jews as a voting bloc, threw out the 'Isreal lobby' as a bunch of neocons and Republicans and blamed them for everything. Then posted some opinion papers that we are supposed to take as fact and called people names. yeah you suported your position well, so well we dont even know what it is except to blast Republicans and lesbians.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I garnered that you are a typical arrogant liberal who comes with nothing of substance except attacks on other posters who may not agree with your politics or 'values'. You denied the existance of jews as a voting bloc, threw out the 'Isreal lobby' as a bunch of neocons and Republicans and blamed them for everything. Then posted some opinion papers that we are supposed to take as fact and called people names. yeah you suported your position well, so well we dont even know what it is except to blast Republicans and lesbians.

Yeah, I get called names left and right by both of you and yet i am doing the attacking. Right from the neo con playbook chuck. Well done.

Don't blame your lack of comprehension on a lack of support and explanation from my part. I can't be blamed for your failures or those of your teachers.

You skew the facts and issues laid out becaue you have no clue on the subject and anyone with a brain (that would preclude antitrust32) knows it. I have laid out the facts and support with opinions with people knowledgable on the subject.

When you have time, perhaps you should have someone read you the articles.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Yeah, I get called names left and right by both of you and yet i am doing the attacking. Right from the neo con playbook chuck. Well done.

Don't blame your lack of comprehension on a lack of support and explanation from my part. I can't be blamed for your failures or those of your teachers.

You skew the facts and issues laid out becaue you have no clue on the subject and anyone with a brain (that would preclude antitrust32) knows it. I have laid out the facts and support with opinions with people knowledgable on the subject.

When you have time, perhaps you should have someone read you the articles.

First of all show one occasion in this thread where I called you a name? Secondly dont act like you presented your side when you basically posted articles and called names. Where in this thread do you specifically say what your position is? Other than to disagree with me? And worry about 1945 or 1948? What did I skew? The fact that Harvard has historically taken stances against Isreal? That the policis have basically not wavered? That pseudo-intellectuals like you are never able to see the world for what it is? That blaame must be assigned and secret movements are to blame...

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The fact that that is all you garnered from this whole discussion was a three year difference in time (as if that is minor) shows how hopelessly stupid and ignorant you are. What should i expect from a lesbian that claims to be a republican?

Keep up the suck up role. everyone needs a place i guess. You certainly have yours.

ALL you have Dala, is name calling... you have no other substance and never have. And people should take you seriously because of that??

And you didnt prove anything different from Cannons arguements. Your WHOLE arguement didnt even make sense! Somehow you claim only Republicans support Isreal, and there is no such thing as a Jewish vote, eventhough according to you the Jewish vote goes to the Repubs. But Cannon was three years off on the formation of Isreal and there goes his whole arguement.

Keep trying. When people have no substance they just resort to name calling.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

ALL you have Dala, is name calling... you have no other substance and never have. And people should take you seriously because of that??

And you didnt prove anything different from Cannons arguements. Your WHOLE arguement didnt even make sense! Somehow you claim only Republicans support Isreal, and there is no such thing as a Jewish vote, eventhough according to you the Jewish vote goes to the Repubs. But Cannon was three years off on the formation of Isreal and there goes his whole arguement.

Keep trying. When people have no substance they just resort to name calling.

You leave her alone you LESBO!

[Mike]

As Barack would say, settle down, settle down people

I'll find something cheery we can all agree on...

[Mike]

McCain and Palin crowds turn ugly:

Obama called a terrorist clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvXf9AUHTqM


Crowdmember yells "Kill him" upon hearing about Bill Ayers(supposed Obama "associate"):

Lifted from the Washington Post:

The reception had been better in Clearwater, where Palin, speaking to a sea of "Palin Power" and "Sarahcuda" T-shirts, tried to link Obama to the 1960s Weather Underground. "One of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers," she said. ("Boooo!" said the crowd.) "And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,' " she continued. ("Boooo!" the crowd repeated.)

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.

Palin also told those gathered that Obama doesn't like American soldiers. "He said that our troops in Afghanistan are just, quote, 'air-raiding villages and killing civilians,' " she said, drawing boos from a crowd that had not been told Obama was actually appealing for more troops in Afghanistan.

"See, John McCain is a different kind of man: He believes in our troops," she said.

[SniperSB23]

The Jewish vote goes overwhelmingly to the Democrats (although not so overwhelmingly this year cause of racism and bitter Hillary supporters). But the Jewish vote is hardly significant. It is 2% of the population.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

The Jewish vote goes overwhelmingly to the Democrats (although not so overwhelmingly this year cause of racism and bitter Hillary supporters). But the Jewish vote is hardly significant. It is 2% of the population.

Go back in the the thread. I didnt say otherwise. Chuck had no idea about the Israel lobby so he tried to link it to the jewish vote. Antitrust, being nice but hopelessly illiterate, went with what chuck said.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

The Jewish vote goes overwhelmingly to the Democrats (although not so overwhelmingly this year cause of racism and bitter Hillary supporters). But the Jewish vote is hardly significant. It is 2% of the population.

dont you think in light of the last presidential elections that 2% could swing the vote? And Dala wants to know where you get your numbers....

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

ALL you have Dala, is name calling... you have no other substance and never have. And people should take you seriously because of that??

And you didnt prove anything different from Cannons arguements. Your WHOLE arguement didnt even make sense! Somehow you claim only Republicans support Isreal, and there is no such thing as a Jewish vote, eventhough according to you the Jewish vote goes to the Repubs. But Cannon was three years off on the formation of Isreal and there goes his whole arguement.

Keep trying. When people have no substance they just resort to name calling.

You called me names first dear. Look back in the thread. Regardless, I dont want to be mean to you. Im sure you are a really nice person. You cant ****in read, but im sure you are a really nice person.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

hard to believe I put 1945 when it was 1948. So far off. What have I said that isnt true? That Isreal is our only ally in the ME? That the ME is a unstable area? That Isreal has nukes and wont be afraid to use them if threatened? That it is impossible for people on a mesage board to determine the what amount of aid between countries is correct? That our policy towrds Isreal has been pretty consistent regardless of ruling party?

You said that I support the withdraw of US support for Isreal, which is not true. In fact, you put a lot of words into my mouth by making assumptions about my posts that were not true. The only thing i said was our support of Isreal is the main core reason we are hated by the ME.

I dont disagree with your statements above. I just dont feel we need to be so high up Isreals asses like we are. And we can keep some of that money and use it towards that grand ol' U S of A.

[Mortimer]

I got somethin' for yer mouth right ovah heah,baby.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

I got somethin' for yer mouth right ovah heah,baby.

Your fist?