Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-22-2006, 04:12 PM
eurobounce
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffymommy
I am seriously excited to see this match up. Will it even be a match up w/Bernardini running away with it or maybe BGC running away with it? I am kinda excited about a new late developing 3 yr old coming into their own. OH THIS IS GOING TO BE A FUN RACE TO WATCH.

I like High Cotton and Hesanoldsalt. (Not to win, but to be improving and getting into the mix)
I am not too excited about Hesanoldsalt. His last race on the 29th wasnt all that great. I have no clue what happened to Corinthian in that race, but Hesanoldsalt is not very good.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-22-2006, 04:26 PM
SniperSB23 SniperSB23 is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 6,086
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eurobounce
I am not too excited about Hesanoldsalt. His last race on the 29th wasnt all that great. I have no clue what happened to Corinthian in that race, but Hesanoldsalt is not very good.
What exactly did you want out of him? He only won the race in a faster time than Bernardini on the same day. I know the track was good when he ran and sloppy (although sealed) when Bernardini ran but at the same time it was pouring during Salt's race and not during the Dandy. I'm not suggesting Hesanoldsalt would have beat Bernardini but I do think he got shafted by the split variant and would have been right there for second had he gone in the Dandy.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-22-2006, 04:30 PM
eurobounce
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SniperSB23
What exactly did you want out of him? He only won the race in a faster time than Bernardini on the same day. I know the track was good when he ran and sloppy (although sealed) when Bernardini ran but at the same time it was pouring during Salt's race and not during the Dandy. I'm not suggesting Hesanoldsalt would have beat Bernardini but I do think he got shafted by the split variant and would have been right there for second had he gone in the Dandy.
You are freaking crazy. There is no way on earth you can compare those two races. See this is where watching replays tells the story. Hesanoldsalt was all out to get the victory. Bernardini jogged (I MEAN JOGGED) home. Bernardini could have run the race is prob 2-4 seconds faster if he would have tried.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-22-2006, 04:35 PM
SniperSB23 SniperSB23 is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 6,086
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eurobounce
You are freaking crazy. There is no way on earth you can compare those two races. See this is where watching replays tells the story. Hesanoldsalt was all out to get the victory. Bernardini jogged (I MEAN JOGGED) home. Bernardini could have run the race is prob 2-4 seconds faster if he would have tried.
I was at the track that day and have watched the replays. I do agree that Bernardini could have gone faster. That is also why I think the figures were set too him for him and as a result too high for the other horses in that race. If you are saying he could have run 2-4 seconds faster that is like 18 to 36 Beyer points faster meaning you think he could have run a 132 to 150 Beyer. Now that is freaking crazy. I think Hesanoldsalt would have probably run second in the Dandy or at least been right there with them.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-22-2006, 04:38 PM
eurobounce
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I was at the track that day and have watched the replays. I do agree that Bernardini could have gone faster. That is also why I think the figures were set too him for him and as a result too high for the other horses in that race. If you are saying he could have run 2-4 seconds faster that is like 18 to 36 Beyer points faster meaning you think he could have run a 132 to 150 Beyer. Now that is freaking crazy. I think Hesanoldsalt would have probably run second in the Dandy or at least been right there with them.
Sure any horse could get up for 2nd in the Dandy. He might have been. And yes I think Bernardini could have run 2 seconds faster. The horse galloped the entire way.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-22-2006, 05:17 PM
sumitas sumitas is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,362
Default

2 seconds faster ? i think that is nutso. maybe 1 second, 5 lengths, but not 2sec. everybody will be goin Bern/all so that doesn't look good.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-22-2006, 09:04 PM
eurobounce
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sumitas
2 seconds faster ? i think that is nutso. maybe 1 second, 5 lengths, but not 2sec. everybody will be goin Bern/all so that doesn't look good.
Well ok a seond I will concede. But we will never know.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-22-2006, 10:25 PM
Sightseek's Avatar
Sightseek Sightseek is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,024
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eurobounce
You are freaking crazy. There is no way on earth you can compare those two races. See this is where watching replays tells the story. Hesanoldsalt was all out to get the victory. Bernardini jogged (I MEAN JOGGED) home. Bernardini could have run the race is prob 2-4 seconds faster if he would have tried.
Um, he said could have been right there for second. Can you freaking read?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-22-2006, 11:42 PM
eurobounce
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sightseek
Um, he said could have been right there for second. Can you freaking read?
Right there for second implies that he might have been able to challenge the leader. I am saying that any horse can clump and get 2nd. Big deal if you get second beaten 20 lengths.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.