Is This Finally The End Of Giacomo Goo-Gooism?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by oracle80

You can be loose if you want, just make sure you hit yourself real ****ing hard and then when you get beat we can all tell how much you suck for losing while limping.

Actually Bellamy didn't walk away from the race limping. It was announced a few days later and they had tried to work him. I'd love to use the popped splint as an excuse to since I absolutely adore the horse but all of the horses crumbled at the finish, except Giacomo and Closing Arguement. Stupid Coolmoore...............

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Actually Bellamy didn't walk away from the race limping. It was announced a few days later and they had tried to work him. I'd love to use the popped splint as an excuse to since I absolutely adore the horse but all of the horses crumbled at the finish, except Giacomo and Closing Arguement. Stupid Coolmoore...............

So now my friend Nick is a liar and you know more than he does about the horse? I will let him know!!!

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by oracle80

So now my friend Nick is a liar and you know more than he does about the horse? I will let him know!!!

No one called him a liar and actually I've discussed the horse with him as well.

Originally Posted by Sightseek

No one called him a liar and actually I've discussed the horse with him as well.

He thinks the horse was incredible and that the pace was not his undoing. The splint was. His race in the Travers was the most incredible thing I have ever seen. He only had 4 works for the race off that injury layoff and at the beginning of the month he didn't even think he could make the Kings Bishop with him. He was asked to run him in the Travers and fought back in the lane even after he was passed and actually galloped out ahead of Flower Alley after the wire. Its one of the most incredible efforts I ever saw, EVER. 4 breezes after an injury layoff and he fights the whole way and gallops out ahead of the winner and crushes Roman Ruler who came back in his next start and gave RHT all he could handle.
His Travers was far more incredible than his Wood was and I guess it will never truly be appreciated.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by oracle80

He thinks the horse was incredible and that the pace was not his undoing. The splint was. His race in the Travers was the most incredible thing I have ever seen. He only had 4 works for the race off that injury layoff and at the beginning of the month he didn't even think he could make the Kings Bishop with him. He was asked to run him in the Travers and fought back in the lane even after he was passed and actually galloped out ahead of Flower Alley after the wire. Its one of the most incredible efforts I ever saw, EVER. 4 breezes after an injury layoff and he fights the whole way and gallops out ahead of the winner and crushes Roman Ruler who came back in his next start and gave RHT all he could handle.
His Travers was far more incredible than his Wood was and I guess it will never truly be appreciated.

I was extremely impressed by his Traver's, thought it was the best race he ever ran.

[Slewstoo]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I was extremely impressed by his Traver's, thought it was the best race he ever ran.

It was a courageous performance considering the layoff and the competition he faced. Roman Ruler's stock was never higher at that time, and of course you had Flower Alley coming off a big peformance too.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by oracle80

He thinks the horse was incredible and that the pace was not his undoing. The splint was. His race in the Travers was the most incredible thing I have ever seen. He only had 4 works for the race off that injury layoff and at the beginning of the month he didn't even think he could make the Kings Bishop with him. He was asked to run him in the Travers and fought back in the lane even after he was passed and actually galloped out ahead of Flower Alley after the wire. Its one of the most incredible efforts I ever saw, EVER. 4 breezes after an injury layoff and he fights the whole way and gallops out ahead of the winner and crushes Roman Ruler who came back in his next start and gave RHT all he could handle.
His Travers was far more incredible than his Wood was and I guess it will never truly be appreciated.

This is what the DRF said on the Tuesday following the Derby. I don't think Nick would have tried to work the horse that day if he was limping following the Derby:

Bellamy Road injured

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Bellamy Road, seventh as the favorite in the Derby, could make a return in the summer.
By MARTY McGEE
LOUISVILLE, Ky. - For Nick Zito, injury has been piled onto insult. Already struggling with the disappointment of seeing all five of his starters fare poorly Saturday in the Kentucky Derby, Zito discovered Tuesday morning that the most heralded of that quintet, Bellamy Road, has a popped splint bone that will force the colt to miss the Preakness and Belmont Stakes.
Zito came upon Bellamy Road's relatively minor injury as training wound down at Churchill Downs. Starting around dawn, Bellamy Road had been lightly jogged around the shed row and cooled out fine, but several hours later, Zito noticed that something was amiss. Subsequent X-rays revealed a BB-sized bump on the inside of the left front cannon bone.

"The bad news is he popped a splint," said Zito. "The good news is the X-rays are clean otherwise. There's no fracture, so he'll be back for the big races this summer."

A popped splint, technically known as exostosis, is the result of a slight hemorrhaging around the small splint bone, which is attached to the cannon bone. If neglected, the injury can grow, calcify, and become more painful for the horse. One standard remedy, and the one Zito has chosen for Bellamy Road, is for the affected area to be freeze-fired with liquid nitrogen, so as to arrest its progression. Healing time is relatively brief, in this case about 30 days, and Zito said he is optimistic that Bellamy Road could be back in time for major races such as the Travers Stakes at Saratoga in late August.

The splint injury may help to explain why Bellamy Road finished seventh as the 5-2 favorite in the Derby, which was won by Giacomo, a 50-1 shot.

Even with the setback, Zito still has three horses who might run in the May 21 Preakness at Pimlico: High Fly, Noble Causeway, and Sun King. After how those colts performed in the Derby, though - they ran 10th, 14th, and 15th - Zito is trying his best to put on a happy face.

"It's like your preachers around here say: there's always tomorrow," he said. "Is this disappointing? It's devastating. But we're going to fight through it. I always say, disappointment is inevitable when you have the kind of expectations we had. We had five horses - somebody told me the odds against that were a trillion to one - and we didn't get anything. Of course we're disappointed."

Zito said he is inclined to run one or two of his three remaining contenders in the Preakness and that his final decision will be based on how they train in the next few days. All three went back to the track early Tuesday but did nothing more strenuous than lightly jog.

"Whichever ones I decide on, they'll fly to Baltimore the Wednesday morning before the race," he said. "I definitely want to train them here."

While those three colts stay behind, Bellamy Road and the 30 or so other Zito horses who have been in Kentucky the last several weeks will be shipped to Belmont Park this weekend. Bellamy Road will not have to be turned out.

Zito already has ruled out his fifth Derby starter, Andromeda's Hero, for the Preakness, saying he will point to the Belmont. Andromeda's Hero was eighth in the Derby.


As for arguing the merits of the horse, you're wasting your breath as I probably adore the horse more than anyone out there, but even the best ones lose and not just because of injury.

Then you oughta know that splints arent like fractures and arent always noticed right away. I adored that horse. His Travers was the most inccredible display or raw talent and guts I ever saw. Noone I ever saw would have run a race like that off 4 slow breezes and 30 days training, noone. The fact that he actually took after FA after the wire and caught him tells me everything I need to know about what kind of guts this horse had. That and the fact that any other horse I ever saw who was hooked by a sharp fit horse like FA was who had only 4 slow breezes would have stopped to a walk. he actually came back at him after he was passed and kept going to the wire and after it. He was as game as any horse I ever saw in my life that day.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by oracle80

His Travers was the most inccredible display or raw talent and guts I ever saw. Noone I ever saw would have run a race like that off 4 slow breezes and 30 days training, noone. .

Then I take you weren't at Saratoga when Repent ran the same sort of race under the same sort of conditions against a demonstrably better horse (Medaglia d'Oro).

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Then you oughta know that splints arent like fractures and arent always noticed right away. I adored that horse. His Travers was the most inccredible display or raw talent and guts I ever saw. Noone I ever saw would have run a race like that off 4 slow breezes and 30 days training, noone. The fact that he actually took after FA after the wire and caught him tells me everything I need to know about what kind of guts this horse had. That and the fact that any other horse I ever saw who was hooked by a sharp fit horse like FA was who had only 4 slow breezes would have stopped to a walk. he actually came back at him after he was passed and kept going to the wire and after it. He was as game as any horse I ever saw in my life that day.

Well in one post you tell someone to hit themselves with a hammer and go for a run and see how they feel and than you bring up the fact that splints are not noticed right away, which if his wasn't (and Zito did term it "invisible") than how much could you really say it affected him in the Derby? If it was SO bad, like hitting yourself with a hammer, I'd think it wouldn't be invisible now would it? Also, there is a debate on whether or not horses feel pain while running which is why they will continue to run while breaking down ( ) because of the adrenaline. So in the end no one can really say for certain what got him but, only that unfortunately he did.

Also, for anyone who has been waiting for his return, unfortuantely he hasn't had a published work in over a month.