Is This Finally The End Of Giacomo Goo-Gooism?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

See, I don't agree on that, although I think Alex is a nice horse. The best horse in the race was Bellamy Road and HE got compromised.

That horse was going to get compromised every time he wasn't loose on the lead. Too bad it is looking less likely everyday that we'll ever see him on the track again.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

That horse was going to get compromised every time he wasn't loose on the lead. Too bad it is looking less likely everyday that we'll ever see him on the track again.

Be nice!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

That horse was going to get compromised every time he wasn't loose on the lead. Too bad it is looking less likely everyday that we'll ever see him on the track again.

I know. It's a damn shame. The talent really was there on him IMO (although the maturity may not have been.)

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

That horse was going to get compromised every time he wasn't loose on the lead. Too bad it is looking less likely everyday that we'll ever see him on the track again.

Yeah it was definitely that and not the splint he popped.(said with a huge roll of the eyes)

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Yeah it was definitely that and not the splint he popped.(said with a huge roll of the eyes)

Perhaps....but I highly doubt he would have held up after that pace whether he had a popped splint or not.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Perhaps....but I highly doubt he would have held up after that pace whether he had a popped splint or not.

Thats like saying that perhaps a tennis player may not have won a match whether he pulled a hamstring or not. Do you realize the sheer insanity involved with speculating on what a horse with a popped splint may have done without it? Before yo go out today for a jog, take a big ****ing hammer and bash your shin or ankle with it. Then get back to us after your jog and let us know how it went.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Thats like saying that perhaps a tennis player may not have won a match whether he pulled a hamstring or not. Do you realize the sheer insanity involved with speculating on what a horse with a popped splint may have done without it? Before yo go out today for a jog, take a big ****ing hammer and bash your shin or ankle with it. Then get back to us after your jog and let us know how it went.

Do I need to have several people running in front of me or can I be loose on the lead when I bash myself with a hammer?

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Do I need to have several people running in front of me or can I be loose on the lead when I bash myself with a hammer?

You can be loose if you want, just make sure you hit yourself real ****ing hard and then when you get beat we can all tell how much you suck for losing while limping.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by oracle80

You can be loose if you want, just make sure you hit yourself real ****ing hard and then when you get beat we can all tell how much you suck for losing while limping.

Actually Bellamy didn't walk away from the race limping. It was announced a few days later and they had tried to work him. I'd love to use the popped splint as an excuse to since I absolutely adore the horse but all of the horses crumbled at the finish, except Giacomo and Closing Arguement. Stupid Coolmoore...............

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by oracle80

You can be loose if you want, just make sure you hit yourself real ****ing hard and then when you get beat we can all tell how much you suck for losing while limping.

You can believe what you want. Considering his connections believe the popped splint was from before the Derby I think it is quite the coincidence that he was able to run a mile in 1:36 before it started to bother him. Seems more likely to me that he just got tired. Certainly the splint didn't help him but even Zito says he thinks the lack of seasoning on the horse was as big a factor in his Derby performance as the popped splint. His Beyer in the Derby was a 90, only six points lower than his figure two races back and higher than any of his previous figures.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Perhaps....but I highly doubt he would have held up after that pace whether he had a popped splint or not.

I don't agree. I think he would have held on. He finished 7th, injured. Not too bad considering the pace.

[Slewstoo]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

That horse was going to get compromised every time he wasn't loose on the lead. Too bad it is looking less likely everyday that we'll ever see him on the track again.

I agree, the first mistake was the "farm manager" taking over his training regime and relieving Zito. The farm manager always came off very arrogantly in all of his interviews making up excuses for Bellamy Road. Don't get me wrong Bellamy has alot of talent but I don't think he was ever as good as the Wood made him appear.

P.S. Alex was clearly the best horse in the race

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Slewstoo

I agree, the first mistake was the "farm manager" taking over his training regime and relieving Zito. The farm manager always came off very arrogantly in all of his interviews making up excuses for Bellamy Road. Don't get me wrong Bellamy has alot of talent but I don't think he was ever as good as the Wood made him appear.

P.S. Alex was clearly the best horse in the race

Slews are you looking for a fight here?

To this day, even now that Bellamy has been taken from him, Zito says he is the most talented horse he had to work with and I think Zito has seen his fair share of talent throught his years. (he is the trainer of Sun King after all )

[Slewstoo]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Slews are you looking for a fight here?

To this day, even now that Bellamy has been taken from him, Zito says he is the most talented horse he had to work with and I think Zito has seen his fair share of talent throught his years. (he is the trainer of Sun King after all )

Hey Sightseek! I've heard Zito say that on numerous occassions too, but remember he did say that Sun King was his favorite!

I see that you're not arguing the fact that Alex was clearly the best horse in the Derby though

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Slewstoo

Hey Sightseek! I've heard Zito say that on numerous occassions too, but remember he did say that Sun King was his favorite!

I see that you're not arguing the fact that Alex was clearly the best horse in the Derby though

Alex is more tactical than Bellamy but not as talented.

Feel better now?

[Slewstoo]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Alex is more tactical than Bellamy but not as talented.

Feel better now?

LOL, is this supposed to be a compromise or something?