Colonel John

Danzig · #1 10-01-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush

I think Henry the Navigator would be a huge bet against in this spot, being that he isn't in that good of form now anyway, and probably belongs in the (turf) mile.
The biggest X factor will be Casino Drive. I think he's scheduled to go in an allowace race at Santa anita in the next week or so.

the biggest?? come on, the horse has run twice. it's ridiculous the amount of attention this horse gets, for doing nothing other than being dropped by a good mare.

lemoncrush · #2 10-02-2008, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

the biggest?? come on, the horse has run twice. it's ridiculous the amount of attention this horse gets, for doing nothing other than being dropped by a good mare.

I meant the biggest X factor as how much money he'll take and how he affects the odds of the top 3 or 4 contenders.
The Peter Pan didn't really turn out to be a key race, but if he freaks and wins for fun in an allowance race at Santa Anita, he could take a lot of money on BC day.

Danzig · #3 10-02-2008, 09:01 AM

i don't think he'll draw much attention to be honest with you. he only got press leading up to the belmont because of his siblings, neither of which showed a predilection for synthetics.

SniperSB23 · #4 10-02-2008, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't think he'll draw much attention to be honest with you. he only got press leading up to the belmont because of his siblings, neither of which showed a predilection for synthetics.

Some may disagree but I still think his Peter Pan was one of the best 3yo performances this season.

Cajungator26 · #5 10-02-2008, 09:14 AM

I'm taking a shot with Go Between. Curlin will be favored ... no way I'm eating total chalk on a questionable surface for him. Colonel John has a home court advantage, but I'm not sure if he's fast enough to win the whole thing.

Danzig · #6 10-02-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Some may disagree but I still think his Peter Pan was one of the best 3yo performances this season.

is that really saying a lot considering?

SniperSB23 · #7 10-02-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

is that really saying a lot considering?

No, but he's not as bad as people are making him out to be cause of how much he was overhyped (especially on here). He's the only 3yo aside from Big Brown that has any chance against older horses.

blackthroatedwind · #8 10-02-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

No, but he's not as bad as people are making him out to be cause of how much he was overhyped (especially on here). He's the only 3yo aside from Big Brown that has any chance against older horses.

There are more than a few 3YOs who right now could beat older horses.

Danzig · #9 10-02-2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

No, but he's not as bad as people are making him out to be cause of how much he was overhyped (especially on here). He's the only 3yo aside from Big Brown that has any chance against older horses.

sorry, i don't agree. considering the dearth of talent (other than curlin) in the older horse ranks. i think getting hung up on one performance, especially that long ago, is a mistake. why hasn't the horse done anything since then?? it's a very bizarre deal, and i don't get it at all.
in a way, it reminds me of that south american horse who came up back in the spring, and kept getting money on him-for no apparent reason. and kept running up the track as a result. and yes, i know casino drive is 2/2-BUT i do not understand why a two time runner, regardless of dam, is getting any attention at all. i think he'll be in over his head. where are all the folks who get up in arms when a relative newcomer gets tossed into the fire like this? there are folks who don't think zenyatta is seasoned enough to run in the classic (and i disagree) but these yahoo owners get a pass, because casino drive is by better than honour?