Watched Flower Alley work this morning

dalakhani · #1 08-22-2006, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

While those two are gutchecking themselves on down the lane, it sets the race up perfectly for Ministers Bid.

I would love to see that sister! I bet him in his maiden at keeneland at 9-1 and i have been in love ever since. And im sure i'll bet on him again this weekend because im a glutton.

You have good taste in horses!!!

Cajungator26 · #2 08-22-2006, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

I would love to see that sister! I bet him in his maiden at keeneland at 9-1 and i have been in love ever since. And im sure i'll bet on him again this weekend because im a glutton.

You have good taste in horses!!!

I think he's got a ton of talent as well. The Dandy was his first race around two turns and I don't think he did that bad at all. I was impressed considering his lack of starts. I'll be pulling for him to win this weekend. (I think I'm going to put a few bucks on him to win for ****s and grins.)

#3 08-23-2006, 07:13 AM

I would have to agree with Oracle, though as mentioned, BG CAT has yet to be a tiger down the lane. As for BERNIE, it's hard to look a runner in the eye when he is running off from the others.
The Travers should be an interesting race, featuring the best two 3yos currently running(only other possible might be DISCREET CAT).
My $$ will probably be on the CAT unless the wise guys pound him down out of proportion.
Should be a great day of racing, with a very difficult pik 4.
Thje King's Bishop should be a true minefield for 'cappers.
Good luck to everyone playiong, and I am jealous of all who will be there!

Gander · #4 08-23-2006, 08:57 AM

What exactly does pedigree have to do with winning the Travers? Your losing me. And the jockey thing I dont really think matters much more than who the horse's parents were. Best horse will win.

I agree that Albertrani is a good bet against but I think you really have to make Bernardini an exception. I dont care how many million dollar horses this guy trains and hasnt been able to win with. I think Bernardini is very special and wins this race. Bluegrass Cat of course has a shot, but I think he'll be bet way more than you think and offer little value on Saturday.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #5 08-23-2006, 09:10 AM

One thing that I think most of us are forgetting is that BGC has been running the Classic distances all spring except for down at Tampa and Keeneland. In the race at tampa, he threw a shoe which is a valid excuse. At Keeneland, he didn't take to the track. It is very hard to tell how much he has improved because he got taken back to 1 1/8 miles in the Haskell. Based on his pedigree, this is probably his best distance. So I really don't know where to rank him as far as improvement goes. With that being said he is probably a huge bounce candidate since he is coming back to the mile and a quarter distance so quickly off that huge (race of his life) performance.

Gander · #6 08-23-2006, 09:13 AM

Not sure how the distance will matter. It didnt determine Bluegrass Cat's finish in the Derby or the Belmont. Barbaro and Jazil would have beaten him at either distance. Deputy Glitters would have won the Tampa Bay race at any distance. Bluegrass Cat would have won the Haskell at any distance.

Bernbardini would have won all his races at any distances.

Why will the distance of the Travers matter? This race will be over at the 1/8th pole if not sooner.

slotdirt · #7 08-23-2006, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Not sure how the distance will matter. It didnt determine Bluegrass Cat's finish in the Derby or the Belmont. Barbaro and Jazil would have beaten him at either distance. Deputy Glitters would have won the Tampa Bay race at any distance. Bluegrass Cat would have won the Haskell at any distance.

Bernbardini would have won all his races at any distances.

Why will the distance of the Travers matter? This race will be over at the 1/8th pole if not sooner.

Really? You think Bernardini would have won the Withers if it were run at 5f? Deputy Glitters would have won the Tampa Bay Derby at 4.5f?

kentuckyrosesinmay · #8 08-23-2006, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Not sure how the distance will matter. It didnt determine Bluegrass Cat's finish in the Derby or the Belmont. Barbaro and Jazil would have beaten him at either distance. Deputy Glitters would have won the Tampa Bay race at any distance. Bluegrass Cat would have won the Haskell at any distance.

Bernbardini would have won all his races at any distances.

Why will the distance of the Travers matter? This race will be over at the 1/8th pole if not sooner.

BCG was gaining back on Deputy Glitters in the Tampa Bay Derby. If he wouldn't have thrown the shoe, I guarantee you that he would have won the race. It was a very valid statement because BCG just ran the race of his life at 1 1/8 miles in a very good time. I really do think that this is the horse's best distance. Therefore, I am saying that it is very hard to tell how much BCG has actually improved.

LARHAGE · #9 08-23-2006, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

What exactly does pedigree have to do with winning the Travers? Your losing me. And the jockey thing I dont really think matters much more than who the horse's parents were. Best horse will win.

I agree that Albertrani is a good bet against but I think you really have to make Bernardini an exception. I dont care how many million dollar horses this guy trains and hasnt been able to win with. I think Bernardini is very special and wins this race. Bluegrass Cat of course has a shot, but I think he'll be bet way more than you think and offer little value on Saturday.

I personally will take Bernardini's pedigree over BC, and unless the actual trainers are getting in the starting gate and racing each other, I'll take the better horse, for what it's worth at least Albertrani has won a classic race, Pletcher is ofer a lot more attempts, that info is as relevant as their stats this meet. It's the horses who are running!!!!

dr. fager · #10 08-22-2006, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

You have good taste in horses!!!

...oh please don't encourage her, she'll start spouting off that Innkeeper was Secretariat's best colt.....

Cajungator26 · #11 08-22-2006, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dr.fager

...oh please don't encourage her, she'll start spouting off that Innkeeper was Secretariat's best colt.....

I love Innkeeper.

And he IS the most gorgeous and conformed colt that Secretariat sired, so there.