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[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Impossible. Unfortunately those guys are what it would take to be able to dump Castillo. And they at least seem a slight improvement over flushing $18 million down the toilet.

Guillen is terrible and Byrnes had one fluky season and has been hurt. At least Castillo can bunt. Not to mention there is zero chance KC takes a contract on and AZ has no needs at 2nd, especially an expensive, bad one.

[MaTH716]

The worst part of the Castillo deal was that it seemed that there was really no market for him. Minaya was bidding against himself and gave him 4 years to boot.
I also heard this morning that whatever money that is coming off the books (Alou, Hernandez, Perez) will go right back on it with raises for Wright,Reyes and Santana.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

The worst part of the Castillo deal was that it seemed that there was really no market for him. Minaya was bidding against himself and gave him 4 years to boot.
I also heard this morning that whatever money that is coming off the books (Alou, Hernandez, Perez) will go right back on it with raises for Wright,Reyes and Santana.

Too bad about the money. They have a new taxpayer funded stadium that will bring in hundreds of millions in revenue. They got it, if they are going to lose they netter at least spend to keep up with the Yankees who are surely going to go crazy this offseason.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I also heard this morning that whatever money that is coming off the books (Alou, Hernandez, Perez) will go right back on it with raises for Wright,Reyes and Santana.

Pedro frees up $11.5 million, Alou $7.5 million, Hernandez and Perez $6.5 million each. Santana gets a raise of $1 million, Wright gets a raise of $2.5 million, and Reyes gets a raise of $1.75 million.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Pedro frees up $11.5 million, Alou $7.5 million, Hernandez and Perez $6.5 million each. Santana gets a raise of $1 million, Wright gets a raise of $2.5 million, and Reyes gets a raise of $1.75 million.

Are you sure about Sanata? I thought he was making 12 million and now it goes to the 22-23 million per year range.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Are you sure about Sanata? I thought he was making 12 million and now it goes to the 22-23 million per year range.

2008 - $19 million
2009 - $20 million
2010 - $21 million
2011 - $22.5 million
2012 - $24 million
2013 - $25.5 million
2014 - $25 million (team could buyout for $5.5 million)

2014 could become a player option if Santana pitches 215 innings in 2013 or averages over 210 in 2011 to 2013.

He was making $13.25 on his old deal before he renegotiated, that may be where the confusion comes from.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

2008 - $19 million
2009 - $20 million
2010 - $21 million
2011 - $22.5 million
2012 - $24 million
2013 - $25.5 million
2014 - $25 million (team could buyout for $5.5 million)

2014 could become a player option if Santana pitches 215 innings in 2013 or averages over 210 in 2011 to 2013.

It is sooooo nice having CC and Santana out of the AL Central...Imagine having to face both those guys 4-5 times a year? That's why the White Sox are the powerhouse they were this year

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

2008 - $19 million
2009 - $20 million
2010 - $21 million
2011 - $22.5 million
2012 - $24 million
2013 - $25.5 million
2014 - $25 million (team could buyout for $5.5 million)

2014 could become a player option if Santana pitches 215 innings in 2013 or averages over 210 in 2011 to 2013.

Jesus, I am in the wrong industry!

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Jesus, I am in the wrong industry!

Not bad for working 34 days a year. And his arm could fall off tomorrow and he'll stick collect all $137.5 million.

[Cannon Shell]

The scary thing about the Mets is that the thing they need the most, bullpen help, is the hardest thing to find.

[SniperSB23]

My wishlist for the offseason:

1) Pickup the option on Delgado.

2) Get one solid starter preferably in the $8 million a year range (possibly Oliver Perez).

3) Get one veteran starter you can plug in the 5 spot early while Niese works his way up by midseason (possibly Pedro).

4) Sign one solid OF that won't break the bank (Raul Ibanez?)

5) Get one of the Big 3 closers (K-Rod, Nathan, Lidge)

6) Pay Fuentes and get him to be the setup man

That would put the Mets payroll right around $130 million which includes the $10.5 million they have to pay Wagner. That is right where they were this year. For $10 million more (realistic with the new ballpark) they could add another bullpen arm and help at 2B.

Rotation would be the same as this year, bullpen would be signficantly improved. Lineup would have Ibanez at one corner OF position, Fernando Martinez and Church at the other, and would get back Schneider at C which would be head and shoulders above what they were sending out the past couple weeks.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

My wishlist for the offseason:

1) Pickup the option on Delgado.

2) Get one solid starter preferably in the $8 million a year range (possibly Oliver Perez).

3) Get one veteran starter you can plug in the 5 spot early while Niese works his way up by midseason (possibly Pedro).

4) Sign one solid OF that won't break the bank (Raul Ibanez?)

5) Get one of the Big 3 closers (K-Rod, Nathan, Lidge)

6) Pay Fuentes and get him to be the setup man

That would put the Mets payroll right around $130 million which includes the $10.5 million they have to pay Wagner. That is right where they were this year. For $10 million more (realistic with the new ballpark) they could add another bullpen arm and help at 2B.

Rotation would be the same as this year, bullpen would be signficantly improved. Lineup would have Ibanez at one corner OF position, Fernando Martinez and Church at the other, and would get back Schneider at C which would be head and shoulders above what they were sending out the past couple weeks.

I agree with most of these but #1. Delgado is a trap. A lot of aging power guys had one last gasp season before being totally done. Dont forget last year.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I agree with most of these but #1. Delgado is a trap. A lot of aging power guys had one last gasp season before being totally done. Dont forget last year.

It's one year $8 million essentially. The option is for $12 million and it would cost them $4 million to buy out. You gotta take one more year of Delgado at $8 million.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

It's one year $8 million essentially. The option is for $12 million and it would cost them $4 million to buy out. You gotta take one more year of Delgado at $8 million.

They need to win not save money. If Delgado reverts to form...

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They need to win not save money. If Delgado reverts to form...

White Sox

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They need to win not save money. If Delgado reverts to form...

The guy hasn't had less than 24 HRs or 87 RBIs since he was a backup for John Olerud in Toronto in 1995. If that's the downside then I doubt they can do much better for $8 million at first base.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

The guy hasn't had less than 24 HRs or 87 RBIs since he was a backup for John Olerud in Toronto in 1995. If that's the downside then I doubt they can do much better for $8 million at first base.

They should ante up and sign Teixeira. Delgado is on the otherside of his career and tex is a much better player and will be for the next 5 years. Would you rather have the 2nd best 1st baseman in the lague for the next 5 or 6 years or Delgado? The difference in money shouldnt make much difference with the money mint coming online next year. What do you do with Delgado after next year? There is no guarantee he will show up to play for $8 million anyway. You know he will want an extention and you may wind up with a Manny situation. They have Wright signed to a good contract and there is no other position player that they will have to pay in the near future.