Wiphan

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Unfortunately true. I wonder if there is any big contract OF that still has some value but is vastly overpaid. They might be able to dump Castillo on someone by taking on a big contract like that. Perhaps Eric Byrnes getting $11 million in each of 2009 and 2010. Maybe Jose Guillen getting $12 million each of the next two years.

They may be better off with Castillo...

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They may be better off with Castillo...

Impossible. Unfortunately those guys are what it would take to be able to dump Castillo. And they at least seem a slight improvement over flushing $18 million down the toilet.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Impossible. Unfortunately those guys are what it would take to be able to dump Castillo. And they at least seem a slight improvement over flushing $18 million down the toilet.

Guillen is terrible and Byrnes had one fluky season and has been hurt. At least Castillo can bunt. Not to mention there is zero chance KC takes a contract on and AZ has no needs at 2nd, especially an expensive, bad one.

[MaTH716]

The worst part of the Castillo deal was that it seemed that there was really no market for him. Minaya was bidding against himself and gave him 4 years to boot.
I also heard this morning that whatever money that is coming off the books (Alou, Hernandez, Perez) will go right back on it with raises for Wright,Reyes and Santana.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

The worst part of the Castillo deal was that it seemed that there was really no market for him. Minaya was bidding against himself and gave him 4 years to boot.
I also heard this morning that whatever money that is coming off the books (Alou, Hernandez, Perez) will go right back on it with raises for Wright,Reyes and Santana.

Too bad about the money. They have a new taxpayer funded stadium that will bring in hundreds of millions in revenue. They got it, if they are going to lose they netter at least spend to keep up with the Yankees who are surely going to go crazy this offseason.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I also heard this morning that whatever money that is coming off the books (Alou, Hernandez, Perez) will go right back on it with raises for Wright,Reyes and Santana.

Pedro frees up $11.5 million, Alou $7.5 million, Hernandez and Perez $6.5 million each. Santana gets a raise of $1 million, Wright gets a raise of $2.5 million, and Reyes gets a raise of $1.75 million.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Pedro frees up $11.5 million, Alou $7.5 million, Hernandez and Perez $6.5 million each. Santana gets a raise of $1 million, Wright gets a raise of $2.5 million, and Reyes gets a raise of $1.75 million.

Are you sure about Sanata? I thought he was making 12 million and now it goes to the 22-23 million per year range.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Are you sure about Sanata? I thought he was making 12 million and now it goes to the 22-23 million per year range.

2008 - $19 million
2009 - $20 million
2010 - $21 million
2011 - $22.5 million
2012 - $24 million
2013 - $25.5 million
2014 - $25 million (team could buyout for $5.5 million)

2014 could become a player option if Santana pitches 215 innings in 2013 or averages over 210 in 2011 to 2013.

He was making $13.25 on his old deal before he renegotiated, that may be where the confusion comes from.

[Cannon Shell]

The scary thing about the Mets is that the thing they need the most, bullpen help, is the hardest thing to find.

[SniperSB23]

My wishlist for the offseason:

1) Pickup the option on Delgado.

2) Get one solid starter preferably in the $8 million a year range (possibly Oliver Perez).

3) Get one veteran starter you can plug in the 5 spot early while Niese works his way up by midseason (possibly Pedro).

4) Sign one solid OF that won't break the bank (Raul Ibanez?)

5) Get one of the Big 3 closers (K-Rod, Nathan, Lidge)

6) Pay Fuentes and get him to be the setup man

That would put the Mets payroll right around $130 million which includes the $10.5 million they have to pay Wagner. That is right where they were this year. For $10 million more (realistic with the new ballpark) they could add another bullpen arm and help at 2B.

Rotation would be the same as this year, bullpen would be signficantly improved. Lineup would have Ibanez at one corner OF position, Fernando Martinez and Church at the other, and would get back Schneider at C which would be head and shoulders above what they were sending out the past couple weeks.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

My wishlist for the offseason:

1) Pickup the option on Delgado.

2) Get one solid starter preferably in the $8 million a year range (possibly Oliver Perez).

3) Get one veteran starter you can plug in the 5 spot early while Niese works his way up by midseason (possibly Pedro).

4) Sign one solid OF that won't break the bank (Raul Ibanez?)

5) Get one of the Big 3 closers (K-Rod, Nathan, Lidge)

6) Pay Fuentes and get him to be the setup man

That would put the Mets payroll right around $130 million which includes the $10.5 million they have to pay Wagner. That is right where they were this year. For $10 million more (realistic with the new ballpark) they could add another bullpen arm and help at 2B.

Rotation would be the same as this year, bullpen would be signficantly improved. Lineup would have Ibanez at one corner OF position, Fernando Martinez and Church at the other, and would get back Schneider at C which would be head and shoulders above what they were sending out the past couple weeks.

I agree with most of these but #1. Delgado is a trap. A lot of aging power guys had one last gasp season before being totally done. Dont forget last year.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I agree with most of these but #1. Delgado is a trap. A lot of aging power guys had one last gasp season before being totally done. Dont forget last year.

It's one year $8 million essentially. The option is for $12 million and it would cost them $4 million to buy out. You gotta take one more year of Delgado at $8 million.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

It's one year $8 million essentially. The option is for $12 million and it would cost them $4 million to buy out. You gotta take one more year of Delgado at $8 million.

They need to win not save money. If Delgado reverts to form...

[Cannon Shell]

everyone goes crazy when a guy like Arod or Texiera asks for huge money but the contracts that really kill teams are the ones like castillo or Juan Pierre or the guys Sniper listed. At least the other guys produce. Obviously the jones deal in LA hasnt worked out so well but the key was it was only a 2 year deal and they only have to deal with him one more year.

[wiphan]

OK. I just saw this thread today. It has been an insane weekend! YES the Brewers made it finally. I actually lived in Philly the last time the crew was in the playoffs and I was at the 1983 World Series Phillies vs. Baltimore and had to watch my grandfather gloat as the Orioles won the World Series. I moved to WI in 1989 and have been a fan of the crew ever since. I watched Nolan Ryan win his 300th career game at the old county stadium and have had great memories and a lot of dissapointments being a brewer fan. Today is a great day in WI and hopefully somebody besides CC will show up to pitch in the playoffs.

The other part of my weekend was insane. My wife (shelly) won this contest thru the AQHA (american quarter horse association) and they sent two World Champion trainers to our farm to train her horse for 2 days and take her to an AQHA show. They filmed all of this for a TV show (on RFD TV, mostly on Satelitte). She also won one of her classes so it started Sunday out right and then I got home to watch the Crew win the game and waited in anticipation for the collapse of the METS! It was Awesome. Can't think of a better weekend! I don't even care that the packers lost.

GO CREW!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by wiphan

OK. I just saw this thread today. It has been an insane weekend! YES the Brewers made it finally. I actually lived in Philly the last time the crew was in the playoffs and I was at the 1983 World Series Phillies vs. Baltimore and had to watch my grandfather gloat as the Orioles won the World Series. I moved to WI in 1989 and have been a fan of the crew ever since. I watched Nolan Ryan win his 300th career game at the old county stadium and have had great memories and a lot of dissapointments being a brewer fan. Today is a great day in WI and hopefully somebody besides CC will show up to pitch in the playoffs.

The other part of my weekend was insane. My wife (shelly) won this contest thru the AQHA (american quarter horse association) and they sent two World Champion trainers to our farm to train her horse for 2 days and take her to an AQHA show. They filmed all of this for a TV show (on RFD TV, mostly on Satelitte). She also won one of her classes so it started Sunday out right and then I got home to watch the Crew win the game and waited in anticipation for the collapse of the METS! It was Awesome. Can't think of a better weekend! I don't even care that the packers lost.

GO CREW!

Congrats!