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Old 09-29-2008, 11:13 AM
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Am I correct in saying the Hirsch was a new world record at a mile and a quarter on turf? Was trying to confirm this on Saturday.
Yes... The turf course was rolling a 12 on the stempmeter.
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:25 AM
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Listed so far as just a new course record.. Haven't seen reference to world record..
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:29 AM
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I'm confused but wasn't the turf course drenched with rain the day before causing a day's cancellation and these numbers were run on yielding and or soft turf?

HIRSCH: 23.52 -- 45.63 -- 1:08.86 -- 1:32.88 -- 1:57.16
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:33 AM
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I'm confused but wasn't the turf course drenched with rain the day before causing a day's cancellation and these numbers were run on yielding and or soft turf?

HIRSCH: 23.52 -- 45.63 -- 1:08.86 -- 1:32.88 -- 1:57.16
Wrong Hirsch, that is the Santa Anita one. And not to be confused with the G2 by the same name that Zenyatta won earlier this year. The Clement Hirsch should be renamed the John Henry Turf Championship. It is idiocy to have two graded stakes named the Clement Hirsch and two Hirsch races run on the same day.
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:35 AM
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Wrong Hirsch, that is the Santa Anita one. And not to be confused with the G2 by the same name that Zenyatta won earlier this year. The Clement Hirsch should be renamed the John Henry Turf Championship. It is idiocy to have two graded stakes named the Clement Hirsch and two Hirsch races run on the same day.
Okay that makes sense now, thanks.
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Old 09-29-2008, 02:27 PM
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I'm confused but wasn't the turf course drenched with rain the day before causing a day's cancellation and these numbers were run on yielding and or soft turf?

HIRSCH: 23.52 -- 45.63 -- 1:08.86 -- 1:32.88 -- 1:57.16
The Clement Hirsch is run at Santa Anita.

The Joe Hirsch is run at Belmont.

Steve's talking about the Clement Hirsch.
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Old 09-29-2008, 04:08 PM
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The Clement Hirsch is run at Santa Anita.

The Joe Hirsch is run at Belmont.

Steve's talking about the Clement Hirsch.
Thanks Ateamstupid, Sniper beat you to the punch, really I should have figured it out myself.
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Old 09-29-2008, 05:30 PM
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I'm confused but wasn't the turf course drenched with rain the day before causing a day's cancellation and these numbers were run on yielding and or soft turf?

HIRSCH: 23.52 -- 45.63 -- 1:08.86 -- 1:32.88 -- 1:57.16
so this race was on soft, or firm?
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so this race was on soft, or firm?
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Old 09-30-2008, 09:37 AM
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Here are the winning Beyer Speed Figures from last week's stakes races:

*Joe Hirsch Turf Classic International (Bel): Grand Couturier - GB (R. Ribaudo/A. Garcia) - 112
*Clement L. Hirsch Memorial Turf Championship (OSA): Red Giant (T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez) - 112

*Jockey Club Gold Cup (Bel): Curlin (S. Asmussen/R. Albarado) - 111
*Ancient Title (OSA): Cost of Freedom (J. Sadler/T. Baze) - 110

*Vosburgh (Bel): Black Seventeen (B. Koriner/C. Potts) - 108
*Kentucky Cup Sprint (TP): Fatal Bullet (R. Baker/E. Da Silva) - 108
*Lady's Secret (OSA): Zenyatta (J. Shireffs/M. Smith) - 108
*Delaware Certified (Del): Cayman Condo (S. Lake/R. Homeister Jr.) - 106
*Kelso (Bel): Tam Lin - GB (S. bin Suroor/J. Castellano) - 106
*Goodwood (OSA): Well Armed (E. Harty/A. Gryder) - 105
*Flower Bowl Invitational (Bel): Dynaforce (W. Mott/A. Garcia) - 104
*Hawthorne Gold Cup (Haw): Fairbanks (T. Pletcher/R. Migliore) - 104
*Morvich (OSA): California Flag (B. Koriner/J. Talamo) - 103
*Majestic Prince (Mth): Coal Play (N. Zito/J. Bravo) - 102
*Gallant Bob (Pha): Rollers (B. Tagg/M. Luzzi) - 101
*Oak Tree Mile (OSA): Hyperbaric (J. Canani/G. Gomez) - 100

*Beldame (Bel): Cocoa Beach - Chi (S. bin Suroor/R. Dominguez) - 99
*Kentucky Cup Classic (TP): Zanjero (S. Asmussen/S. Bridgmohan) - 99
*Red Diamond Express (NP): Cool Synsation (C. Anderson/R. Simard) - 97
*Dolly Jo (Crc): Slewfoundmoney (M. Wolfson/J. Santiago) - 97
*Yellow Ribbon (OSA): Wait a While (T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez) - 97
*All American (GG): Delightful Kiss (P. Anderson/C. Borel) - 96
*Ontario Derby (WO): Sand Cove (R. Attfield/R. Dos Ramos) - 96
*Robert F. Carey Memorial (Haw): Wise River (C. Hanna/F. Torres) - 96
*Judy's Red Shoes (Crc): Ashley River (D. Brownlee/P. Lopez) - 95
*Avowal (WO): Saskawea (S. Attard/J. Jones) - 95
*Turf Amazon (Pha): Sheets (A. Goldberg/R. Alvarado Jr.) - 95
*Capital Request (Crc): Silver Envoy (K. Ziadie/J. Leyva) - 94
*Pine Tree Lane (OSA): Tizzy's Tune (R. McAnally/A. Solis) - 94
*Kentucky Cup Distaff (TP): Bear Now (R. Baker/E. Da Silva) - 93
*La Lorgnette (WO): Sugar Bay (M. Benson/C. Sutherland) - 92
*Indian Maid (Haw): Ciao (F. Kirby/I. Karlsson) - 91
*Beaufort (NP): Cool Ventura (C. Anderson/R. Simard) - 91
*J. R. Straus Memorial (Ret): Sumfun (W. Calhoun/B. Walker Jr.) - 91
*H.P.B.A. (PID): Afleet Angel (P. Bacon/W. Lozano Jr.) - 90
*Needles (Crc): Smooth Air (B. Stutts Jr./M. Cruz) - 90
*Floral Park (Bel): Wishful Tomcat (G. Contessa/R. Dominguez) - 90

*Regal Rumor (Haw): Palanka City (T. Gestes/C. Emigh) - 89
*Hey Baba Lulu (Bel): You Go West Girl (T. Proctor/E. Prado) - 89
*Monmouth Park NATC Futurity (Colts Div.) (Mth): Forty Thieves (S. Klesaris/R. Mojica Jr.) - 88
*Salute Me Sir (Bel): Lorccan (J. Ferraro/J. Sanchez) - 88
*Oak Leaf (OSA): Stardom Bound (C. Paasch/M. Smith) - 87
*Gottstein Futurity (EmD): Gallant Son (F. Lucarelli/L. Mawing) - 86
*Norfolk (OSA): Street Hero (M. Cho/A. Solias) -86
*Dr. Ernest Benner (CT): Russell Road (J. Casey/L. Perez) - 86
*Oklahoma Classics Sprint (RP): Steal Your Face (K. Craddock/F. Wethey Jr.) - 85
*Oklahoma Classics Turf (RP): Strategic Leader (R. Mitchell/B. Landeros) - 85
*Kentucky Cup Juvenile (TP): West Side Bernie (K. Breen/S. Elliott) - 85
*Pleasant Temper (KD): My Baby Baby (K. McPeek/M. Mena) - 84
*First State Dash (Del): Afleet Aussie (T. Ritchey/J. Lopez) - 83
*Brave Raj (Crc): Renda (J. Arias/S. Madrid) - 83
*Alberta Breeders' (NP): Teagues Fight (D. MacDonald/S. Heiler) - 83
*Delaware Certified Distaff (Del): Hungarian Boatbaby (A. Dutrow/J. Rocco Jr.) - 82
*Mackinac (Pnl): Bishop Casey (R. Gorham/T. Molina) - 81
*Kentucky Cup Juvenile Fillies (TP): Sugar Mom (W. Catalano/M. Aguilar) - 80
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