RollerDoc's Bank

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

How did it work to your advantage? You bet $48 on the race and got back $43.50? What am I missing?

My net loss was only $4.50. I guess my point was that is not a horrible result if you are willing to take a chance at betting against a huge favorite. Had I bet those same three horses to Win only as opposed to across the board, then that would have been a over 10 times the loss.

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You seem to be confusing things and I'm not patient enough to go through it all. Do what you want.

In the end I lost money. Not good. I realize that. Trust me, I learned today I will not bet across the board going forward unless I have some FU money to throw at capable longshots from time to time.

Who is this hrfan guy?

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

The village idiot and a compulsive liar. I'm an azzhole. But, I'm sure you figured that out by now.

Not at all. I like you. You are one of the few who haven't beaten me up too bad over my Big Brown crusade these past few months.

[blackthroatedwind]

Lucky Island was the ultimate sucker litmus test.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah, well PG just pm'd me and he thinks anyone that listens to you is crazy and you are one of the worst public handicappers alive. He won't say it to you, and i know how broken up you are going to be, but I had to get it off my chest.

Now that's something to LOL at.

I'm crushed. I don't know how I will go on.

More importantly.....who taught him how to PM?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

It's okay. I know it's going to be a long couple of days after hearing it, but it'll all pass.

I'm not sure who taught him, but unfortunately I get them. Not anymore now after this, but I did. Funny, he always seems to hit a lot when he doesn't post his plays. Pretty ironic. The best was the other day he told me he was at OTB and had $200 left. So he tells me about the bets he made and how big he won. The only problem was the bets he made were more than $200. I think he was lying. I was shocked.

Impossible.

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You seem to be confusing things and I'm not patient enough to go through it all. Do what you want.

PS...Don't you find it a little funny that I am sending Hank Goldberg memos on how to win money when I am betting across the board on 2-1 horses

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

PS...Don't you find it a little funny that I am sending Hank Goldberg memos on how to win money when I am betting across the board on 2-1 horses

make your own opinions, you made all these wps bets today, now you would just stop because someone said so ? i agree with hoss on the show, but there is nothing wrong with win/place

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by hrfan

make your own opinions, you made all these wps bets today, now you would just stop because someone said so ? i agree with hoss on the show, but there is nothing wrong with win/place

Well the fact of the matter is I am up close to $1000.00 this year, and most of it was on Big Brown. Most of it was also when he won the Fla Derby and KY Derby when I got some decent odds. I still bet him in every race despite his heavily favorite odds.

Recently, I strayed from the script with this across the board stuff and have not been nearly as successful. So the advice of Hoss is very sensible to me.

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Well the fact of the matter is I am up close to $1000.00 this year, and most of it was on Big Brown. Most of it was also when he won the Fla Derby and KY Derby when I got some decent odds. I still bet him in every race despite his heavily favorite odds.

Recently, I strayed from the script with this across the board stuff and have not been nearly as successful. So the advice of Hoss is very sensible to me.

show is a waste.....
have i not been saying that ?

example, i bet the 10 win place today in the first at belmont..... now if i bet him just to win or put him on top of other horses like other ppl say, i would have lost everything, instead, i made a few bucks on the bet.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I wonder how you function in everyday life sometimes. You bet to win and then bet exactas with your horse on top and/or with your horse underneath.

LOL

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I wonder how you function in everyday life sometimes. You bet to win and then bet exactas with your horse on top and/or with your horse underneath.

What if it's a case that you clearly see a horse that you believe strongly will finish 1st or 2nd.......but you're having a tough time picking a couple of the other let's say 9 or 10 horses to put with it?

The exactas as a substitute for the place are a great strategy if you feel moderately strong about any other horse in the race.

I think if you only see one....and the pools are appropriate.......throw the win/place action out there and keep it simple.

I hate to include any horse in my wager I do not feel very strongly will be where my $$ is.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Well the fact of the matter is I am up close to $1000.00 this year, and most of it was on Big Brown. Most of it was also when he won the Fla Derby and KY Derby when I got some decent odds. I still bet him in every race despite his heavily favorite odds.

Recently, I strayed from the script with this across the board stuff and have not been nearly as successful. So the advice of Hoss is very sensible to me.

hossy, i disagree. i think roller doc and hrfan will get along fine.

Hank might be out of a job soon. Weight, blood sugar and blood pressure reading plz.

[dalakhani]

I am far from an expert in wagering strategy. I agree that across the board wagering consistently is a good way to lose money.

However, most races present opportunities of some kind. Labeling any type of wager as "good" or "bad" without taking it into context with a particular race(s) is narrow in my opinion. The pick 4 isnt always a good bet and a bridgejumping show wager isnt always a bad one.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I am far from an expert in wagering strategy. I agree that across the board wagering consistently is a good way to lose money.

However, most races present opportunities of some kind. Labeling any type of wager as "good" or "bad" without taking it into context with a particular race(s) is narrow in my opinion. The pick 4 isnt always a good bet and a bridgejumping show wager isnt always a bad one.

to be honest, i don't know if i'd have finished ahead on the day with just the wps betting. i know i hit a couple really good ones, but i also did very well with exactas those two days that paid nicely, also the early daily double.
but like i said above, i don't play 2/3-1's either.
i'm not a big gambler, i don't go that often, so i'm still somewhat tentative. but we had a hell of a great time up there!