Breeders' Cup Fan Fantasy: The Sprint

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

You guys went off on Honour And Glory yesterday. Visually, Lit De Justice ran like a monster at Woodbine.

I was going to say that as well.

In fact, hands down, when Lit de Justice ran his race, there are only a handful of sprinters ever that could beat him. He would beat any of these horses listed in this fantasy contest. If he hadn't been such a massive head case and been ridden by such an impatient and unthinking ******, he'd be remembered as one of the all time great sprinters ever.

If you can see some of his Santa Anita races, you'll see some of the most breathtaking moves a horse can make.

By the way, Royal Heroine would have smoked Da Hoss.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I was going to say that as well.

In fact, hands down, when Lit de Justice ran his race, there are only a handful of sprinters ever that could beat him. He would beat any of these horses listed in this fantasy contest. If he hadn't been such a massive head case and been ridden by such an impatient and unthinking ******, he'd be remembered as one of the all time great sprinters ever.

If you can see some of his Santa Anita races, you'll see some of the most breathtaking moves a horse can make.

I was bummed when he was made part of the mutual field coming off something like a 13th place finish in the Vosburgh (an obvious throwout) in the '95 Sprint. Thought I'd get 30-1. Instead he only went off at 8-1.

Moot point, though. He ran 3rd to Desert Stormer, also part of the mutual field.

Actually, I guess I should be thankful he was part of the mutual field.

Guess who was last in the Sprint that year? Hint: It wasn't Royal Heroine...

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I was bummed when he was made part of the mutual field coming off something like a 13th place finish in the Vosburgh (an obvious throwout) in the '95 Sprint. Thought I'd get 30-1. Instead he only went off at 8-1.

Moot point, though. He ran 3rd to Desert Stormer, also part of the mutual field.

Actually, I guess I should be thankful he was part of the mutual field.

Guess who was last in the Sprint that year? Hint: It wasn't Royal Heroine...

Da Hoss? I seem to remember something like that, and thinking what was that horse in this race for.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Da Hoss? I seem to remember something like that, and thinking what was that horse in this race for.

Yep. He had been running on turf, but either early at 3 or late as a 2yo, he ran 1:07 1/5 for 6f in a race at Turf Paradise. His first loss might have been the Gotham, prior to which he had been sprinting.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You'd have to admit, that Da Hoss being in the sprint that year was pretty bad placemement. Didn't he win the Del Mar Derby earlier that year?

Yep. Next out he was 3rd to Labeeb in the Hollywood Derby (check out the Angels thread...wink).

Who knows, if the Mad Genius wasn't so stupid, maybe he would have won 3 BC Miles...

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm going to have to go look at some old forms, but I don't remember Lit De Justice running a whole lot. He was brilliant when right though. I can only speak for myself, but what i found so impressive about Honour and Glory was he danced every dance. Despite showing he wanted no part of 2 turns, he won the San Rafael (I think) and then was mistakenly put in the SA Derby and KY. A few weeks after that he ran an incredible race in the Met Mile. And from that point on ran his eyeballs out the rest of the year. He wasn't the best sprinter around, but he was damn good.

And I agree about Da Hoss. I was actually surprised to see how many votes he got. I thought the field he beat in '06 was a lot better thn the '08 field. But, it's kind of hard to take away what he did in '08. He was no world beater, but another damn good horse.

I think people are realizing that Honour and Glory was a much better racehorse, in hindsight, than he generally was recognized to be back when he raced. It's a shame he was trained by who he was.

Here is Lit De Justice in the El Conejo. Not his most impressive race, but worth seeing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0q0qp_hKjg

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Here is Lit De Justice in the El Conejo. Not his most impressive race, but worth seeing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0q0qp_hKjg

Lakota Brave, one of the best, unheralded sprinters out west in the '90s. He was 5th in Lit De Justice's BC Sprint.

He was Headley's prototype for Kona Gold.