Only racism explains close polls

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by geeker2

you mean let's have the popular vote decide?

Isn't that how you vote for your state's top leader? They add up the votes from people in the state. This is the leader of a country. How about the people in the country vote, and they add it up? It's a national office. It's not a state office. State totals should have zero to do with determining a national leader. The state you live in should have nothing to do with your vote for president....Nothing. Just like the city you live in should have nothing to do with your vote for the Governor of your state. When you vote for a member of congress, all the votes in that Congressional district are counted up. You don't count up areas won within that congressional district. Let's face it. The Electoral College is loved by the South because they don't want their minority "Buckwheat" votes to count, and they don't count.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Isn't that how you vote for your state's top leader? They add up the votes from people in the state. This is the leader of a country. How about the people in the country vote, and they add it up? It's a national office. It's not a state office. State totals should have zero to do with determining a national leader. The state you live in should have nothing to do with your vote for president....Nothing. Just like the city you live in should have nothing to do with your vote for the Governor of your state. When you vote for a member of congress, all the votes in that congreessional district are counted up. You don't count up areas won within that congressional district.

My vote means absolutely zero. If I choose to vote for a democrat for president in any given election in the state I live, my vote is absolutely meaningless. Which makes sense...I am a meaningless person! It's this way in many states for both sides of the political spectrum. A popular vote would make them actually campaign cross country as random red and blue votes in random blue and red states would actually mean something. It's hard for me to think a popular vote wouldn't increase voter turnout as well.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

My vote means absolutely zero. If I choose to vote for a democrat for president in any given election in the state I live, my vote is absolutely meaningless. Which makes sense...I am a meaningless person! It's this way in many states for both sides of the political spectrum. A popular vote would make them actually campaign cross country as random red and blue votes in random blue and red states would actually mean something. It's hard for me to think a popular vote wouldn't increase voter turnout as well.

It's very divisive. Even if you do some incredible gymnastics to come up with an argument to call it fair(somehow,) you can't deny it's one of the most divisive things we have in place.

[Danzig]

scuds needs to go back to civics class. the electoral college was put in place so that each state would have a voice, and no state would be marginalized. you have to understand that back when all that was put in place, the federal govt was viewed as a necessary evil to keep a fairly loose conglomeration of states united under one 'leader'. but most didn't want states rights to lose out to a large federal govt-which is exactly what we have now. states won't try to break away from the feds now on anything, since everyone is hooked onto the govt teat financially...

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

scuds needs to go back to civics class. the electoral college was put in place so that each state would have a voice, and no state would be marginalized. you have to understand that back when all that was put in place, the federal govt was viewed as a necessary evil to keep a fairly loose conglomeration of states united under one 'leader'. but most didn't want states rights to lose out to a large federal govt-which is exactly what we have now. states won't try to break away from the feds now on anything, since everyone is hooked onto the govt teat financially...

I'm excited...talk dirty some more.

[Mortimer]

I wanted her to talk about NAFTA's sucking sound.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

scuds needs to go back to civics class. the electoral college was put in place so that each state would have a voice, and no state would be marginalized. you have to understand that back when all that was put in place, the federal govt was viewed as a necessary evil to keep a fairly loose conglomeration of states united under one 'leader'. but most didn't want states rights to lose out to a large federal govt-which is exactly what we have now. states won't try to break away from the feds now on anything, since everyone is hooked onto the govt teat financially...

It's bullshit. It's got to go, and doesn't surprise me somebody living in the south likes it. FK THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. This is a national office.You can't figure that out.... can ya honey. It only has states involved because of a-holes back then, and their descendants today. You lower yourself to the people around you. We can't get rid of it, because our cancer(the south) loves to keep their buckwheat's votes from counting. The Electoral College was started to satisfy racists, and it's still in today, because racists won't sign on to get rid of it. This thread is about racism. Start with that E.C. Each state has 2 senators to represent their state. That's enough of that States rights racism. Anytime you hear "States Rights ," racism isn't far behind. Your living in the state that didn't want blacks going to school at Little Rock High School. They did that claiming states rights. Racists love states rights. It lets you fk over people in your own state. Which is exactly what happens in the E C. If you don't belong to the predominant party in the state, then your vote probably won't mean much in the Presidential Elections. States Rights = you got the right to fk over those with the least power in your state. My Dad saw a Black guy get beat to a pulp in Arkansas in the late 40's early 50's(BY A COP.) He refuses to go back. Back then, States Rights meant you got to do pretty much whatever you wanted to the Blacks in your state.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

It's bullshit. It's got to go, and doesn't surprise me somebody living in the south likes it. FK THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. This is a national office.You can't figure that out.... can ya honey. It only has states involved because of a-holes back then, and their descendants today. You lower yourself to the people around you. We can't get rid of it, because our cancer(the south) loves to keep their buckwheat's votes from counting. The Electoral College was started to satisfy racists, and it's still in today, because racists won't sign on to get rid of it. This thread is about racism. Start with that E.C. Each state has 2 senators to represent their state. That's enough of that States rights racism. Anytime you hear "States Rights ," racism isn't far behind. Your living in the state that didn't want blacks going to school at Little Rock High School. They did that claiming states rights. Racists love states rights. It lets you fk over people in your own state. Which is exactly what happens in the E C. If you don't belong to the predominant party in the state, then your vote probably won't mean much in the Presidential Elections. States Rights = you got the right to fk over those with the least power in your state.

can you explain to me where in my post i said that it was a good idea, that i came up with it (i'm not THAT old) or that i agreed with it? it's what's in place, but i find it interesting that you think a southerner came up with the idea. again, you need to go look thru your history books....honey

[Danzig]

"The Electoral College was established by the founding fathers as a compromise between election of the president by Congress and election by popular vote."

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

can you explain to me where in my post i said that it was a good idea, that i came up with it (i'm not THAT old) or that i agreed with it? it's what's in place, but i find it interesting that you think a southerner came up with the idea. again, you need to go look thru your history books....honey

You didn't say it was a bad idea. Why are you so quick to come to it's aid. You mention the word marginalize? That's what the E.C. does to each voting minority in a state. Beautiful isn't it? Great for you to come flying in to it's aid.