Wayne Catalano-Frank Calebrese

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Originally Posted by reese

Clearly,you feel strongly all ways Thanks for clarifying that.

Who can definitively say that Arl tests all horses vigorously for all drugs and CO2 levels. Do they have a detention barn like nyra?

I think the before and after stats tell the REAL story. Reminds me of Lake and Shumen. Lake USED to have gaudy win % in NY UNTIL nyra instituted the detention barn and began testing all. Lake had one runner in NY this year that I can remember...gee wonder why

Oh yes, I feel strongly on both sides of the arguement, yeah, that's it. I always enjoy how someone takes one post and makes that all-encompassing in order to make a weak point or invalidate another's opinion. I think I've made my opinions on these topics known very clearly. If you don't think so, I suggest you improve your reading and comprehension skills.

As far as Arlington, other than racing there, I am not at all familiar with what they test for and what they don't. As far as I know, they do not have an extended/pre-race detention barn, vis a vis NY.

The before and after can certainly tell a great deal -- without question. As a result of that, you can certainly assume, perhaps a lot. However, under today's rules -- I don't know of one racing jurisdiction that will ban someone for before and after, form reversal, etc. They can lean on a guy, as discussed in this thread, and they can certainly make life difficult for someone -- ala Shuman/Gill/et al. The arguement of doing otherwise, in this case more, is a fallacious one. With regard to NYRA, I am not aware of NYRA changing their standards, testing, etc. because of the implementation of the detention barn. The one change that was made was the implementation of the black box and that testing, however, I've been told that came before the detention barn. Whether or not that's true, it doesn't matter.

Perhaps every racetrack in the US should implement an extended/pre-race detention barn. Maybe there's the answer. It might just be that simple. On the other hand, I think we will all see the trickle-down effect of steroid(s) testing, out of competition testing, and additional measures that are being implemented.

Eric