3 year old filly Eclipse?

Originally Posted by Betsy

Let me be clear that I am not knocking PS in any way...nor Indian Blessing. I just don't think IB has a resume that stacks up to PS or MN. In a weaker year, yes. As somone pointed out earlier, IB will very likely get the Eclipse for female sprinter. Also, I really don't see why PS is such a lead pipe cinch unless MN wins the Distaff, but I suppose it doesn't really matter. I have no clue as to how MN will handle the synthetic, but I suspect she won't handle it well at all. That will settle the question.

Indian Blessing is already a champion, and can now rate, something she could not do earlier in the year, i think shes as good if not better then Music Note and Proud Spell, and if they faced today things could be different, especially with her clear pace advantage

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

no doubt if zaftig was right its a lock....imo

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by hrfan

Indian Blessing is already a champion, and can now rate, something she could not do earlier in the year, i think shes as good if not better then Music Note and Proud Spell, and if they faced today things could be different, especially with her clear pace advantage

she's a very good sprinter but would have very little chance against those two right now going long. . .

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

she's a very good sprinter but would have very little chance against those two right now going long. . .

i don't know whether indian blessing could beat them or not, but i don't think that is how you're supposed to vote anyway-based on who would win a race. i think it's supposed to go to the most dominate horse in their division from spring til fall. indian blessing certainly fits the bill, and now has taken on older horses with success.
look back at azeri for example-there was no dominant male all year, but i'd imagine most would say street cry would have beaten her head to head. but he didn't dominate all year, and she did.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't know whether indian blessing could beat them or not, but i don't think that is how you're supposed to vote anyway-based on who would win a race. i think it's supposed to go to the most dominate horse in their division from spring til fall. indian blessing certainly fits the bill, and now has taken on older horses with success.
look back at azeri for example-there was no dominant male all year, but i'd imagine most would say street cry would have beaten her head to head. but he didn't dominate all year, and she did.

I don't disagree with anything you're saying. . . I was responding to PG's claim that Indian Blessing could beat the other two going longer now that she can rate.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I don't disagree with anything you're saying. . . I was responding to PG's claim that Indian Blessing could beat the other two going longer now that she can rate.

ok, gotcha.

[Indian Charlie]

It's just a fun thing to speculate on, for most people, I'm going to guess.

If you really think about it, most things people seem to care about really don't matter much, if at all.

As for liking a sire, in my case, with Indian Charlie, I was fanatic about that horse when he broke his maiden. Along with Rahy and Cee's Tizzy, two of my other favorites when they ran, I couldn't see how they wouldn't be successful stallions when they retired and I really enjoyed watching their progeny run.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm still trying to figure out why it matters to people who gets the eclipse. This is a good debate, don't get me wrong. But the eclipse is voted on by a panel of racing "journalists", whatever that means nowadays. I suppose it's the fairest way, but take a look at the voting from last year.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/nat...rd-voting.aspx

Now, I have no objection to any of the winners. But, can someone tell me who voted for Court Vision and Kodiak Kowboy as 2 year old male? Or Cry and Catch me as 2 year old filly? Or Lava Man and Student Council as older male? Or Take D'Tour as older female? I could go on and on. I understand wanting to win the award, I'm sure it's nice to put in the trophy case. I just don't get why it would be important to someone with no connection to the horse. But, I also don't get why people fixate on a sire, so maybe it's me.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I actually didn't have you in mind when I mentioned the sire thing. I was thinking more of the guy who was hung up on Golden Missile. And the guy who spends his nights looking for progeny of Giant's Causeway.

Of course I realized that, but offered up that it's probably something similar for PG as well.