3 year old filly Eclipse?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

proud spell gets it imo.......

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

proud spell gets it imo.......

i think so too, unless music note take the distaff.

[blackthroatedwind]

Clearly Zaftig deserves the Eclipse.

She beat Indian Blessing. Indian Blessing beat Proud Spell. Proud Spell beat Music Note.

Clearly Zaftig is better than all of them.

End of debate.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Clearly Zaftig deserves the Eclipse.

She beat Indian Blessing. Indian Blessing beat Proud Spell. Proud Spell beat Music Note.

Clearly Zaftig is better than all of them.

End of debate.

Nice analysis of the seventh at Belmont today. I went against you with the Tagg dropper and paid dearly.

[RolloTomasi]

She won the Silverbulletday, a Grade 3, at Fair Grounds. The Davona Dale is run at Gulfstream.

Actually, until a couple of years ago, the Silverbulletday was called the Davona Dale. My mistake.

I would still say that the creation of a seperate female sprint division title lessens Indian Blessing's claim on the 3yo title, though I realize a lot of her sprint wins were age restricted.

Its hard for me to believe that the voters will give her both Eclipses even in the event that she wins and the other two bomb horrendously on BC day.

[Betsy]

this thread has taken an unfortunate turn. Thanks for your responses, but I am sorry I even asked the question.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Betsy

this thread has taken an unfortunate turn. Thanks for your responses, but I am sorry I even asked the question.

Really? What's so bad about it? Seems more civil than most threads on here to me. . .

[King Glorious]

Indian Blessing has been the best 3yo filly of 2008. It's really that simple. The award doesn't say who's the best one at routing or who's the best one at sprinting. It ask who is the best one period and that answer is Indian Blessing. What I'm hoping for is Midnight Lute to not make the Sprint and Baffert enter IB in the open race against the boys. After she drills them there, then can we end this debate?

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Not to sound redundant, but if she's the best filly of '08, what is Zaftig? Because she pissed on Indian Blessing.

one race, before she learned to rate... i think Zatfigs a 1 hit wonder, where has she been ?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Not to sound redundant, but if she's the best filly of '08, what is Zaftig? Because she pissed on Indian Blessing.

A much better 3yo filly on that day?

The 3yo filly Eclipse should be resolved on Breeders Cup day - it's just a shame this Breeders Cup is being run over a surface other than dirt.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Not to sound redundant, but if she's the best filly of '08, what is Zaftig? Because she pissed on Indian Blessing.

Well, how about best/most accomplished 3yo filly? I do think your question is an interesting one though. Why not Zaftig for the Eclipse? I remember back in 2005 I was campaigning for Ghostzapper to win the Eclipse as HOY again even though he only raced once. The thinking is that the criteria says only that a horse has to have started at least once in North America. Think about it. How many times have we seen a European come over here and win one of the BC races and be named NA champion? Off the top, I know Miesque (twice), High Chaparral (twice, and he didn't even win his race outright the second time), Johannesburg, Daylami, Kalanisi, Ouija Board a couple of times. Then think about the cases of Arazi and Singspiel. Arazi not only won the Eclipse as top 2yo but was also one of that year's three finalist for HOY. Singspiel never actually won a race in the United States in his year (won the Canadian International and ran second in the BC Turf) and still won the title. So, since technically Zaftig has met the criteria, why not vote for her if you think she was the best 3yo filly to race in NA in 2008?

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Clearly Zaftig deserves the Eclipse.

She beat Indian Blessing. Indian Blessing beat Proud Spell. Proud Spell beat Music Note.

Clearly Zaftig is better than all of them.

End of debate.

Damn it!!! You stole all my thunder.