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Old 08-21-2006, 10:03 AM
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even won in Louisiana
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:05 AM
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also defeated Include
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:06 AM
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Dude, chill out.
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:07 AM
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Tiznow was a marvelous horse who took on all comers and had not only tremenous talent but the heart of a lion. ANyone who didn't love Tiznow should turn in their racing fan badge. He beat em all, and he knocked heads with the best around. I'm sorry but comparing a horse who beat Giants Causeway to one who beats Good reward and Ace Blue is an absolute travesty.
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:10 AM
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People are entitled to their own opinions. I don't think they're in the same league, but I don't think there are very many posters making the comparison anyway.

LM swept the big three Cali races this year. He's the first to do so. He's won on dirt and turf, he's won a hell of a lot more races than certain other older horses this year...I'd rather see him run more often and win in Cali than see our HOY be a "champion" who runs all of two or three times.

Why can't we all just agree that it will be fun to see Bernardini, Invasor, LM and a few others hook up at the Breeder's Cup? Regardless of the outcome, it's something to look forward to...
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:17 AM
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But there are some, what happened in Japan and in NY??
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:26 AM
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I'm still waiting on these proposed European insights to befall on us
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:28 AM
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:26 AM
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Just wondering, but didn't Tiznow beat half those horses in the Classic? If Lava Man were to approach Tiznow's level, I'd withhold judgment until after the Classic, no? It's not like Tiznow was beating Giant's Causeway and the like in the Pacific Classic?
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:28 AM
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Just wondering, but didn't Tiznow beat half those horses in the Classic? If Lava Man were to approach Tiznow's level, I'd withhold judgment until after the Classic, no? It's not like Tiznow was beating Giant's Causeway and the like in the Pacific Classic?
Thank you Slot. I appreciate reading a logical post regarding this horse.
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:34 AM
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who has Invasor beaten??

Noble Causeway, Tap Day, Rathor, Wilko, Andromeda's Hero, Wild Desert, Sun King, Premium Tap, West Virginia, Harlington??

all definite world beaters huh???

but you know what, It doesn't matter because he beats what's thrown out there at him and that's ALL he can do. For that I give him tremendous respect but I don't think he's absolutely better than LM...

Just have to wait and see.. Whoever wins was better PERIOD
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:35 AM
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a much better group that Lava Man has defeated thats for damn sure.
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Old 08-21-2006, 11:13 AM
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People are entitled to their own opinions. I don't think they're in the same league, but I don't think there are very many posters making the comparison anyway.

LM swept the big three Cali races this year. He's the first to do so. He's won on dirt and turf, he's won a hell of a lot more races than certain other older horses this year...I'd rather see him run more often and win in Cali than see our HOY be a "champion" who runs all of two or three times.

Why can't we all just agree that it will be fun to see Bernardini, Invasor, LM and a few others hook up at the Breeder's Cup? Regardless of the outcome, it's something to look forward to...
Al this from people who were awarding the gutless Flower Alley horse of the year because he ran second to Saint Liam, a horse dusted in California by a pole!!!
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:24 AM
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Tiznow was a marvelous horse who took on all comers and had not only tremenous talent but the heart of a lion. ANyone who didn't love Tiznow should turn in their racing fan badge. He beat em all, and he knocked heads with the best around. I'm sorry but comparing a horse who beat Giants Causeway to one who beats Good reward and Ace Blue is an absolute travesty.
I didnt love Tiznow... if the Euros won those two classics in a row, US racing would never be the same again....
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Old 08-21-2006, 07:18 PM
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I didnt love Tiznow... if the Euros won those two classics in a row, US racing would never be the same again....
Why? We love a Champion no matter where they come from. Well maybe not from Iran.
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Old 08-21-2006, 07:23 PM
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I loved Giants Causeway and he would have been an absolute legend if he won that day. He was a sensational horse that took alot of racing (and managed to beat older horses in March of his 3yo year) Tiznow was not to be passed that day though Kinane regretted dropping his irons before the line. Probably made little difference.

Sakhee would have been too. I admire Tiznow and his connections for the tremendous job they did to get him to win back to back titles esp after the injuries he had, but it doesnt mean I like him.
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Old 08-21-2006, 07:24 PM
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i would have been just as thrilled had giants causeway won that year, he was an amazing racehorse!
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Old 08-21-2006, 12:34 PM
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Tiznow was a marvelous horse who took on all comers and had not only tremenous talent but the heart of a lion. ANyone who didn't love Tiznow should turn in their racing fan badge. He beat em all, and he knocked heads with the best around. I'm sorry but comparing a horse who beat Giants Causeway to one who beats Good reward and Ace Blue is an absolute travesty.
Not only that but CAME back on either him or Sakhee, can't remember which one he did that in but he was passed and came back in one of those BC Classics
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Old 08-21-2006, 05:04 PM
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tiz's second was over sakhee, if memory serves, and that year he was having some physical problems, including a troublesome back. wasn't able to really string much together that year, but he showed in his second bcc what he was made of!! tremendous heart in that horse.
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Old 08-21-2006, 05:47 PM
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Awhhhhh Frankie quit hitting the damn horse and just ride.
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