The Mighty French Un Force

Originally Posted by pgardn

Haunted by their experiences in Bosnia in the 1990’s, when their forces were unable to stop widespread ethnic killing, European governments are insisting upon clarifying the chain of command and rules of engagement before plunging into the even greater complexities of the Middle East.

“In the past, when peacekeeping missions were not properly defined, we’ve seen major failures,’’ a spokeswoman for the French Foreign Ministry, Agnès Romatet-Espagne, said Sunday. “There are the bad memories of Bosnia. This time we want the answers beforehand, so we don’t come to the problems when they have happened.’’



Well thanks for letting us know now that Europe committed all these troops and now is backing out. Worthless... honestly. Bosnia got solved by the US basically bombing the holy crap out of the Serbs. And of course the Europeans wanted US troops in their own back yard for this particular event.

Sickening.
So you see why UN resolutions are worthless and why Israel gets 13-1 votes. Folks it is very clear that these "peace" missions require the use of force like it or not. We sent in 120,000 troops to Iraq to find WMD's. We found nothing cause they were not there. And then we say ok we are here lets get rid of Saddam.

We needed 350,000 troops to do the job in the first place. I hate war and I hate seeing people die but the hammer has to come down in order not extend the death toll of innocent lives caused by chaos when the rule of law breaks down. It is very clear that overwhelming force can actually save lives. Sad but true. Ah just leave all these dictators in place, they prevent all the ethnic hatred from coming out by making everyone hate them. What a mess.

It's us, the British ... and some of their former colonies ... and the Israelis ... who stand between civilization and savagery. Literally.

The Euroweenies and Eurotrash are totally useless ... living on delusions of past glories that really never were.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

It's us, the British ... and some of their former colonies ... and the Israelis ... who stand between civilization and savagery. Literally.

The Euroweenies and Eurotrash are totally useless ... living on delusions of past glories that really never were.

It's amazing that the feeble-minded can only use their hatred of all things and all people not Israeli to help them understand the world.

Israelis + British + U.S. does not a world make.

Where the hell were the Israelis when the "Internaltional Coalition" was formed to mobilize into Iraq?

Hell, there were 50 more Armenians in the Iraq coalition than Israelis.

By the way, there were a total of 50 Armenians in the coalition.

You do the rest of the math, if you're not too feeble to do it.

Originally Posted by SentToStud

It's amazing that the feeble-minded can only use their hatred of all things and all people not Israeli to help them understand the world.

Israelis + British + U.S. does not a world make.

Where the hell were the Israelis when the "Internaltional Coalition" was formed to mobilize into Iraq?

Hell, there were 50 more Armenians in the Iraq coalition than Israelis.

By the way, there were a total of 50 Armenians in the coalition.

You do the rest of the math, if you're not too feeble to do it.

If I remember correctly, the Israelis were requested to stay out of the Iraq affair..

Ez

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by ezrabrooks

If I remember correctly, the Israelis were requested to stay out of the Iraq affair..

Ez

lol, the conversation went like this:

Israel: we don't want to go into Iraq.

U.S: Well, will you stay away then?

Israel: Yes. Thank you.

Originally Posted by SentToStud

lol, the conversation went like this:

Israel: we don't want to go into Iraq.

U.S: Well, will you stay away then?

Israel: Yes. Thank you.

I doubt that happened. At the time, Iraq was dropping Scuds into Israel, and they were ready to go... once again, to defend themselves.

Ez

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by ezrabrooks

I doubt that happened. At the time, Iraq was dropping Scuds into Israel, and they were ready to go... once again, to defend themselves.

Ez

even more reasonable justification for the Izzys to want to participate in the Caolition. "Fight them where they are," and all that stuff. You may buy it, but I don't. Just a difference of opinion, I suppose.

[GenuineRisk]

Good editorial on France's waffling; I don't think anyone who's posted so far will disagree (other than BB, because though he won't read it because it's in the NYTimes it won't stop him from criticizing what he imagined it said. )

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/21/op...=1&oref=slogin

I think the French are being a royal pain in the neck over this, but can we stop the moldy old "If not for us they'd be speaking German!" line of "cowardly French" bashing? Yes, and if not for the French, we'd be singing "God Save the Queen." So it's all relative, depending on how far back in history you're willing to go. And we didn't go in to WW2 to save the French; we went in because we were attacked ourselves and they didn't go into the colonies on our side because they believed in self-determination; they went in to f*ck over the British. Can we keep the argument focused on what they're screwing up now, and not what they screwed up 50 years ago, please? Because I appreciate reading everyone's points of view; this whole mess is so complicated I don't know what to think or believe anymore...

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

Not a "difference of opinion" at all your'e just an ignorant Arab a**hole. The Israeli Govt. took unbearable heat from the IDF and it's citizens for not knocking off Iraq. They stayed out of it at the request of the US so as not to destabilize the coalition (presumably the Arab states).

Well, great to see you've taken your daily dose of hatred medication today.

Kach Kahane and Chai must be terribly proud of you.

Leave it to the Israelis to let the Armenians and others do their heavy lifting.

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Where the hell were the Israelis when the "Internaltional Coalition" was formed to mobilize into Iraq?

Hell, there were 50 more Armenians in the Iraq coalition than Israelis.

STS with all due respect that would have been insane political suicide. You have to remember Iraq actually fired Scud missles into Israel to draw them into the war to get the rest of the Arab world behind them. What did we tell the Israeli's ? Bite your tongue and dont fight back. And you know what the Israelis did... All got their gas masks on because no one knew for sure what the Scuds were carrying. And sat there and took it.

I dare anyone to present a situation in which a country purposely fires missles into the US without our even being in the conflict and see how long we bite our tongues... For God sake there is no way we would show the restraint Israel has.